Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 12:22:57 03/02/04
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On March 02, 2004 at 00:44:37, Frank E. Oldham wrote: >On March 01, 2004 at 22:59:38, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>Now compare with Opteron with 400Mhz RAM. Blows this cpu away left and right! >> >>I hope you realize the weakest chain is memory latency. Both crafty and that >>ruffian are way too memory oriented. G5 trivially is good there, just like >>Opteron with its on die memory controller. >> >>In 2005 this G5 is still clocked at 2Ghz. Opteron moves by end 2004 to 0.09 and >>will hit way higher clockrates. >> >>So i have no idea where you live in history. It's faster now when using the >>right compiler, and it sure will be a lot faster soon again. >> >>http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2004q1/cpu2000-20040126-02725.html >> >>What i'm seeing here for Power4 really is not impressive despite unified caches. > >Actually, IBM has recently released the 970 at 0.09 -- a clock-speed jump to 2.4 >or 2.6 is expected >soon, with 3GHz by end of summer. > >But the 970 is really more of a transitional chip. IBM has indicated they plan >to add on-chip >memory controller (a la Opteron), SMT (hyperthreading), and dual cores inn the >follow-on >chips (980 etc.). So things should continue to improve :-) > >Frank I have asked you guys before to _please_ not cloud these discussions with real facts and data. Here, the only way to discuss things is to make up details to match your argument. Much better: in 3 months the G7 will be released at 6ghz with 6-way super-scalar operation and 10ns memory latency,,, then you will be arguing on vincent's level...
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