Author: Peter Schreiner
Date: 08:44:18 12/09/98
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On December 08, 1998 at 05:22:49, Marcus Kaestner wrote: >Some guys here are really stupid. Moderators ????? NOBODY is stupid here ! Why is it so difficult for you, to accept DIFFERENT opinions ? Regarding your following statements, I have some problems with such an intolerant point of view ...... >First of all the point is not which program is best. The point is which >combination (program/hardware/user)is best, because every operator uses his own >books, his own styles and his own time-management which depends on the program >you have to beat. And so it doesn´t matter on which hardware you play. And the >hardware is the less point which makes a participant a winner. Sure, with better >hardware you have better chances, but notice that Genius on P60 earned 4 Points >and Genius on PII-468 earned only 2.5 points. Notice that Shredder 3 on P200 >earned 4 points and on K6-350 earned oonly 2.5 points. Notice that Gandalf on >P200 earned also more points than Gandalf on PII-350 and so on. Notice also that >Genius 5 on P60 beats Nimzo 99 made remis against Fritz 5.32 and Junior (all on >K6-400)!! Where is the improvement? Also I am a hardware-freak (I had the >fastest machine on this tournament) I have to realize that the importance of the >hardware is going to zero on a 7 round tournament because other factors (good >books, good settings, luck, and so on) are much much more important. Both factors are important. From my experience these tournaments are only senseful in one aspect : you can meet a lot of friends there, share opinions .....You `ll never detect the "best" program in these events. >The second point is we made a team score. Normally one team depends on a fast >and a slow computer, so that the teams are as equal as possible to make a fair >contest. Ok, the Rebel-team had an hardware-advantage but Rebel would have won >also on slower hardware. >The Nimzo-team (my team) had with distance the best hardware, probably the best >books, but did it help? No, because bad circumstances and bugs pushed me back. >That is important! To have a homogen combination and a stable hardware/program >without bugs and hardware-errors! >The third point is that I cannot hear any longer the comments of >"self-made-experts" Brilliant. "Self-made-expert". Where did you earn your reputation ? Did you receive it from your greengrocer ? > which never in their life had participate on a real >tournament. I have been the operator for MChess in Paderborn, Paris, Den Hague etc...following your arguments --> REAL TOURNAMENTS. I never see you there ....... > There is much diffrence to a home-tournament where you have all the >time, no stress, no pressure. Those people gave big comments but having no >experience. In germany we say: blind persons are talking about seeing!!! What `s your problem ?????? I also can`t detect the big value of this tournament. Let me tell you this : these tournaments are ONLY fun and good for sharing the hobby with other people. I like this and some tournaments I`ll never forget. The only thing what I dislike at these events are intolerant people full of fanatism. It seems, that you believe to this sort of people. I hope, that you will stop these insults here. Nobody is stupid here. From my point of view it`s not very intelligent, to attack people in this way, which have different opinions. >The last point is that it is possible to see how good a program plays, also when >it plays on weak machines. You see the style of his playing, you see the plans >he discovers and you see the blunders. The first two points have nothing to do >with hardware and under all aspects the Rebel 10 program was far far away the >best chess player. For example: The Nimzo-team made the 4th place, but the >playing style was terrible. Nearly every win of Nimzo99 was out of a lost game >because the oppenent blundered. Very different Rebel 10. He never came in a lost >game. Different also Fritz. He came in lost games but had luck. And if you are >following the other games you will see that also CM6000, Zarkov, Shredder 3 and >Gandalf have not enough power to reach Rebel or Virtual II. Also Nimzo 99 and >Junior (on the two fastest machines) where very disapponting in this tournament. Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose ......that`s all ! >But if there are persons who "can only laugh" about that tournaments, they can >do - nobody holds them back, but they have to notice that they are not very >intelligent. And you should pay attention to the fact, that we dislike such reactions here. Please don`t forget : it`s only a hobby. No reason,to attack people in the way you did. Your behaviour seems to me not very intelligent ...... Love you ;-) -Peter > Marcus Kästner
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