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Subject: Re: arasan2 position number 15

Author: Joachim Rang

Date: 10:44:15 03/03/04

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On March 03, 2004 at 10:38:23, Joachim Rang wrote:

>On March 03, 2004 at 10:14:50, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>I wonder if the solution f6 is correct solution
>>
>>[D]r3r1k1/6p1/1pqp2Np/2p1nP1P/N1PbPQ2/1P3PR1/P2K4/7R w - - 0 1
>>
>>I could not find a convincing line after f6 Nxc4+ but maybe I miss something.
>>
>>Movei could not solve it at 5 minutes per position on A1000 becasue after few
>>minutes it changed its mind from f6 to Nc3 after failing low at depth 10.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I think you just discovered an error in this testsuite. Most engines fail low
>over  and over after:
>
>1.f6+ Nxc4+ 2. bxc4 Qxa4 3. f7+ Kh7
>
>more (engine)-analysis will follow.
>
>regards Joachim


The position is quite complicated and the variations long, so it is difficult to
judge wheter 1.f6+ is winning or not. My opinion is, that it is not winning. All
engines show big scores for white after 1.f6+ Nxc4+ 2. bxc4 Qxa4 3. f7+ Kh7 but
if you go deeper in the lines the score drops steadily. I played around with
Shredder 8 and produced two drawing lines (see below). There might be better
moves but I was unable to find something convincing for white.

It is clear, that after 1.f6+ white has a better position and that black is
fighting for a draw, but since 1. Nc3 gives also a comfortable position for
white I think the position should be taken out of the testsuite.



1. f6 Nxc4+ 2. bxc4 Qxa4 3. f7+ Kh7 4. Rc1 Qxa2+ 5. Rc2 Qa5+ 6. Ke2 Qa4 7. Rc1
Rf8 8. Nxf8+ Rxf8 9. Rg6 Qa7 10. e5
 (  10. Rxd6 Rxf7 11. Qd2 Qe7 =
10... Bxe5
11. Qe4 Kh8 =

regards Joachim




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