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Subject: Re: Mate in x?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 12:30:53 03/03/04

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On March 03, 2004 at 06:04:29, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On March 03, 2004 at 04:18:30, Paul Byrne wrote:
>
>>Granted, it is not a terribly useful position, as it came from a wild 8 (pawns
>>start on 4th rank) game on ICC between 2 patzers.  And a very short search will
>>get you a score of +10 to +15 and better in white's favor.
>>
>>It is, however, surprisingly tough to see the mate, and makes an interesting
>>test position...
>>
>>r1b3n1/6k1/1n6/pP3qPQ/2PP2p1/1p4b1/4B3/R1BK2NR w - - 0 15
>>
>>Guildenstern's normal search cannot see it here, while it's PN search gets it in
>>under 30 seconds on an athlon 2400+.  The line the PN search produces is mate in
>>19, but is likely not optimal, as PN search is not terribly concerned with
>>winning in the least number of moves.
>>
>>So, what programs can see the win from here?
>
>Not mine, I get a +22 score though.
>
>How about this one from one of my recent games.
>I get a +13 score in a minute but no mate, I wonder if there is a mate
>within reach of any program?
>
>[D]r4rk1/ppqb1Nbp/2n3p1/8/3PN1P1/1BP1Q2P/PP6/R4RK1 w - - 0 23

Crafty output:
Crafty v19.11

White(1): st 999
search time set to 999.00.
White(1): hash 300M
hash table memory =  192M bytes.
White(1): setboard r4rk1/ppqb1Nbp/2n3p1/8/3PN1P1/1BP1Q2P/PP6/R4RK1 w - - 0 23
White(1): go
              clearing hash tables
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 16:39 (16:39)
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
                5->   0.24   5.28   1. Nd8+ Kh8 2. Rxf8+ Bxf8 3. Nf7+ Kg8
                                    4. Nf6+ Kg7 5. Rf1 Bf5 6. Ne8+ Rxe8
                                    7. Qxe8
                6     0.40   5.55   1. Nd8+ Kh8 2. Rxf8+ Bxf8 3. Nf7+ Kg8
                                    4. Nf6+ Kg7 5. Nxd7 Qxd7 6. Qh6+ Kf6
                                    7. Rf1+ Ke7 8. Qxh7
                6->   0.96   5.55   1. Nd8+ Kh8 2. Rxf8+ Bxf8 3. Nf7+ Kg8
                                    4. Nf6+ Kg7 5. Nxd7 Qxd7 6. Qh6+ Kf6
                                    7. Rf1+ Ke7 8. Qxh7
                7     1.12     ++   1. Nd8+!!
                7     1.42   9.36   1. Nd8+ Kh8 2. Rxf8+ Bxf8 3. Nf7+ Kg8
                                    4. Nf6+ Kg7 5. Nxd7 Qxd7 6. Qh6+ Kf6
                                    7. Rf1+ Ke7 8. Qe3+ Ne5 9. Nxe5
                7->   1.82   9.36   1. Nd8+ Kh8 2. Rxf8+ Bxf8 3. Nf7+ Kg8
                                    4. Nf6+ Kg7 5. Nxd7 Qxd7 6. Qh6+ Kf6
                                    7. Rf1+ Ke7 8. Qe3+ Ne5 9. Nxe5
                8     2.24     ++   1. Nd8+!!
                8     3.33  11.06   1. Nd8+ Kh8 2. Rxf8+ Bxf8 3. Nf7+ Kg8
                                    4. Nf6+ Kg7 5. Rf1 Bf5 6. Rxf5 Qxf7
                                    7. Nh5+ gxh5 8. Rxf7+ Kg6 9. Qe4+ Kg5
                                    10. Rxb7
                8->   4.65  11.06   1. Nd8+ Kh8 2. Rxf8+ Bxf8 3. Nf7+ Kg8
                                    4. Nf6+ Kg7 5. Rf1 Bf5 6. Rxf5 Qxf7
                                    7. Nh5+ gxh5 8. Rxf7+ Kg6 9. Qe4+ Kg5
                                    10. Rxb7
                9     7.03  11.12   1. Nd8+ Kh8 2. Rxf8+ Bxf8 3. Nf7+ Kg8
                                    4. Nf6+ Kg7 5. Rf1 Bf5 6. Rxf5 Qxf7
                                    7. Nh5+ gxh5 8. Rxf7+ Kh8 9. Rxb7 hxg4
                                    10. hxg4
                9->  10.22  11.12   1. Nd8+ Kh8 2. Rxf8+ Bxf8 3. Nf7+ Kg8
                                    4. Nf6+ Kg7 5. Rf1 Bf5 6. Rxf5 Qxf7
                                    7. Nh5+ gxh5 8. Rxf7+ Kh8 9. Rxb7 hxg4
                                    10. hxg4
               10    12.71     ++   1. Nd8+!!
               10    52.77  13.58   1. Nd8+ Be6 2. Bxe6+ Kh8 3. Rxf8+ Bxf8
                                    4. Nf7+ Qxf7 5. Bxf7 Bg7 6. Be6 Re8
                                    7. Nd6 Re7 8. Rd1
               10->   1:01  13.58   1. Nd8+ Be6 2. Bxe6+ Kh8 3. Rxf8+ Bxf8
                                    4. Nf7+ Qxf7 5. Bxf7 Bg7 6. Be6 Re8
                                    7. Nd6 Re7 8. Rd1
               11     1:33  13.60   1. Nd8+ Be6 2. Bxe6+ Kh8 3. Rxf8+ Bxf8
                                    4. Nf7+ Qxf7 5. Bxf7 Bg7 6. Be6 Na5
                                    7. Rd1 Re8 8. Nd6 Rf8
               11->   2:04  13.60   1. Nd8+ Be6 2. Bxe6+ Kh8 3. Rxf8+ Bxf8
                                    4. Nf7+ Qxf7 5. Bxf7 Bg7 6. Be6 Na5
                                    7. Rd1 Re8 8. Nd6 Rf8
               12     3:44  13.97   1. Nd8+ Be6 2. Bxe6+ Kh8 3. Rxf8+ Bxf8
                                    4. Nf7+ Qxf7 5. Bxf7 Bg7 6. Nd6 Rf8
                                    7. Bd5 Nxd4 8. cxd4 b6 9. Rd1
               12->   4:59  13.97   1. Nd8+ Be6 2. Bxe6+ Kh8 3. Rxf8+ Bxf8
                                    4. Nf7+ Qxf7 5. Bxf7 Bg7 6. Nd6 Rf8
                                    7. Bd5 Nxd4 8. cxd4 b6 9. Rd1
               13    10:20  14.08   1. Nd8+ Be6 2. Bxe6+ Kh8 3. Rxf8+ Bxf8
                                    4. Nf7+ Qxf7 5. Bxf7 Bg7 6. Nd6 Rb8
                                    7. Bd5 h5 8. gxh5 Bxd4 9. Nf7+ Kg8
                                    10. Ne5+ Kg7 11. cxd4 gxh5
              time=16:39  cpu=88%  mat=2  n=506049970  fh=95%  nps=506K
              ext-> chk=35658412 cap=825892 pp=74446 1rep=2877392 mate=172995
              predicted=0  nodes=506049970  evals=39811873  50move=0
              endgame tablebase-> probes=0  hits=0

White(1): Nd8+



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