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Subject: Re: Ironic? A bitter truth!

Author: Johan de Koning

Date: 16:03:22 03/03/04

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On March 02, 2004 at 23:17:02, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 02, 2004 at 21:14:16, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On March 02, 2004 at 05:57:16, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>
>>>On March 02, 2004 at 02:18:30, Johan de Koning wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 16:18:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 14:06:56, Matthew Hull wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>It's ironic that with the advent of fast, stable, commodity interconnectivity,
>>>>>>and the development of tried-and-tested automation interfaces, that the
>>>>>>so-called "world championship" has only gotten slower, longer, more expensive
>>>>>>and more colloqial.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Once again, the most awesome power on earth (stupidity) triumphs over
>>>>>>technology.
>>>>
>>>>>It seems that it always does.  :)
>>>>
>>>>But you can change the world, if you want to!
>>>>
>>>>Just start by celebrating Thanksgiving and Christmass through phone and e-mail.
>>>>Soon you will discover that the possibilites are almost unlimited. Students will
>>>>pick it up quickly of course, and the class rooms can be turned into a
>>>>profitable asset. Within a decade the rest of the world will follow, and lower
>>>>Manhattan can be turned into a profitable theme park.
>>>>
>>>>But then again, what's the point of a theme park if everyone get their kicks on
>>>>the super highway?
>>>>
>>>>... Johan
>>>
>>>
>>>You can change the world but not the general stupidity of man. Look, by all
>>>means certain people are trying to claim that making money to feed a family is
>>>of similar value than gambling in a 11 round Championship with the leading progs
>>>playing much weaker opponents in the last rounds. The next step is the claim
>>>that such gambling pays off for the leading programmers in a similar manner than
>>>holding classes in universities. Then the final point is that actually gambling
>>>is the central key point, while formerly it was a hobby for academics in their
>>>spare time at the weekends. A bit this reminds me of the many academic drop-outs
>>>who see their drinking habits and other hobbies on the same level as serious
>>>research activities at universities. But again, you can't change the general
>>>stupidity of man.
>>>
>>>Rolf
>>
>>I think you missed his point Rolf. Johann was saying that although it is
>>perfectly possible to do the competition on the Internet, just like one could
>>theoretically celebrate Thanksgiving or Christmas only online as well, it isn't
>>the same experience as doing it live.
>>
>>                                          Albert
>
>
>That is still apples/oranges.
>
>A tournament is first about the games,  and that is just as effective over the
>net as it is in person,

Well sure, if you limit the importance of a tournament to its games
(or even the results), it is pointless to have a "physical" event.
Duration and location are also not an issue then.

>Holidays are first about getting together with family.
>
>The "irony" is non-existent IMHO

With increasing connectivity the 'life' in 'IRL events' is getting *more*
important, not less. Internet pioneers knew that a long time ago. Some
people still don't know it and assume technology is meant to deprive us
from such events. That's the irony.

... Johan



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