Author: Johan de Koning
Date: 20:16:41 03/03/04
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On March 03, 2004 at 21:15:25, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On March 03, 2004 at 19:03:22, Johan de Koning wrote: > >>On March 02, 2004 at 23:17:02, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On March 02, 2004 at 21:14:16, Albert Silver wrote: >>> >>>>On March 02, 2004 at 05:57:16, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 02, 2004 at 02:18:30, Johan de Koning wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 16:18:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 14:06:56, Matthew Hull wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>It's ironic that with the advent of fast, stable, commodity interconnectivity, >>>>>>>>and the development of tried-and-tested automation interfaces, that the >>>>>>>>so-called "world championship" has only gotten slower, longer, more expensive >>>>>>>>and more colloqial. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Once again, the most awesome power on earth (stupidity) triumphs over >>>>>>>>technology. >>>>>> >>>>>>>It seems that it always does. :) >>>>>> >>>>>>But you can change the world, if you want to! >>>>>> >>>>>>Just start by celebrating Thanksgiving and Christmass through phone and e-mail. >>>>>>Soon you will discover that the possibilites are almost unlimited. Students will >>>>>>pick it up quickly of course, and the class rooms can be turned into a >>>>>>profitable asset. Within a decade the rest of the world will follow, and lower >>>>>>Manhattan can be turned into a profitable theme park. >>>>>> >>>>>>But then again, what's the point of a theme park if everyone get their kicks on >>>>>>the super highway? >>>>>> >>>>>>... Johan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>You can change the world but not the general stupidity of man. Look, by all >>>>>means certain people are trying to claim that making money to feed a family is >>>>>of similar value than gambling in a 11 round Championship with the leading progs >>>>>playing much weaker opponents in the last rounds. The next step is the claim >>>>>that such gambling pays off for the leading programmers in a similar manner than >>>>>holding classes in universities. Then the final point is that actually gambling >>>>>is the central key point, while formerly it was a hobby for academics in their >>>>>spare time at the weekends. A bit this reminds me of the many academic drop-outs >>>>>who see their drinking habits and other hobbies on the same level as serious >>>>>research activities at universities. But again, you can't change the general >>>>>stupidity of man. >>>>> >>>>>Rolf >>>> >>>>I think you missed his point Rolf. Johann was saying that although it is >>>>perfectly possible to do the competition on the Internet, just like one could >>>>theoretically celebrate Thanksgiving or Christmas only online as well, it isn't >>>>the same experience as doing it live. >>>> >>>> Albert >>> >>> >>>That is still apples/oranges. >>> >>>A tournament is first about the games, and that is just as effective over the >>>net as it is in person, >> >>Well sure, if you limit the importance of a tournament to its games >>(or even the results), it is pointless to have a "physical" event. >>Duration and location are also not an issue then. > >physical events are fine. We call those "conferences". :) They do _not_ last >two weeks, however... 2-3 or even 4 days is just fine, but _not_ two weeks... ICG10 lasted 3 days. >>>Holidays are first about getting together with family. >>> >>>The "irony" is non-existent IMHO >> >>With increasing connectivity the 'life' in 'IRL events' is getting *more* >>important, not less. Internet pioneers knew that a long time ago. Some >>people still don't know it and assume technology is meant to deprive us >>from such events. That's the irony. >> >>... Johan > >You _can_ do both. Frequent/long tournament events. Short conferences to >discuss algorithms, etc... > >Events on the net. Conferences up close and personal. Sure you can do both, or any subset that suits. Consider yourself invited to the conference at Bar-Ilan for 3 days. I'll be looking forward. ... Johan
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