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Subject: Re: Tournament Format for WCCC 2004, 11 rounds Swiss - standard or delay

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 11:10:47 03/04/04

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On March 04, 2004 at 13:17:09, Gerd Isenberg wrote:

>On March 04, 2004 at 10:08:55, Matthew Hull wrote:
>
>>On March 04, 2004 at 02:50:46, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>
>>>On March 03, 2004 at 21:08:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 03, 2004 at 14:43:28, James Swafford wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 03, 2004 at 14:17:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On March 02, 2004 at 15:19:51, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On March 02, 2004 at 09:53:15, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What about following slightly modified [Swiss system], a kind of "delayed" swiss
>>>>>>>>system to keep the tension a bit longer?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>For the first (4-6) rounds playing swiss with two about equal strong groups with
>>>>>>>>about (even) quantity and quality, eg.
>>>>>>>>(1,4,5,8,9,12,13,16)<->(2,3,6,7,10,11,14,15) or similar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Then reunion both groups and continue with standard swiss, and there are still
>>>>>>>>some thrilling rounds to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What do you think would be better? Standard 11 rounds Swiss (like in Graz WCCC),
>>>>>>>>or the delayed Swiss as suggested by Gerd?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>With all of the controversy surrounding the Graz event, you may be better off
>>>>>>>just aiming for an event that just runs smoothly, as opposed to trying to make
>>>>>>>significant changes (unless there is a clear improvement where the downside is
>>>>>>>very little to none). It seems like you are unsure whether the delayed swiss is
>>>>>>>an improvement. If you're not sure, well...if something can go wrong, it will :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>the quirk here is that they _know_ they are bleeding (too many rounds for last
>>>>>>rounds to be interesting) but they persist in trying to decide on whether to use
>>>>>> band-aid or gauze and tape to stop it.  It would be far better to just solve
>>>>>>the real problem with a long-term fix rather than a poor patch...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>otherwise the patient is going to die...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Or live on in agony...
>>>>
>>>>I suppose that when you consider the insane Shredder/Jonny decision, "agony" is
>>>>certainly a reasonable word...
>>>
>>>Ok i guess for what reasons ever you like to destroy WCCC in it's present form.
>>>I know all your arguments about allways in europe/asia for the last 12 years or
>>>so, and the time and costs one need.
>>>
>>>It's a World Championship - It's about to find hosts and sponsors - and a too
>>>short let say 5 or 7 round tournament isn't attractive for them. What is wrong
>>>with looking for attractive 11-round mode?
>>
>>
>>What's wrong with a 5 day event/conference, with automated interfaces and two or
>>three rounds per day?
>
>Seems that the organizers/sponsors have some interest for a 9 day event.
>For WCCCC automated interfaces are problematic, since some chess
>programs/computers may still exclusively play via a human interface.

Hmmm.  Do they have indoor plumbing at these events?  Next time they should try
the USA.  We have all the modern amenities.

;D



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