Author: Christian Koch
Date: 13:29:19 03/04/04
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Hi Sarah,
I made the same observations in a couple of games from Ruffian with longer time
controls. IMHO this behavior from Ruffian has a big ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT.
Perhaps the programmer should have a look at this games and into his code.
cu,
Christian
On March 04, 2004 at 16:24:53, Chessfun wrote:
>On March 04, 2004 at 15:44:32, Christian Koch wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>if you have a look at the only game No. 1 at
>>
>>http://www.koch-in-holm.de/tour/index.htm
>>
>>you can see that Ruffian used
>>
>>24 min : 56 sec for move No. 18 and
>>19 min : 17 sec for move No. 23.
>>
>>So Ruffian spend about 36,8 % of his time for only 2 moves out of 40!!
>
>Yes but as you can clearly see it needed to spend the time. It has already
>basically lost at move 20 so what difference it'll never get to move 40 anyway?
>
>I played a game last evening at playchess against Ruffian 2.1 where it used over
>8 mins on two moves in a 30'+15" inc game.
>
>And another a couple of days earlier where it used 10 mins on one move in a 60'
>15" inc game. It does though IMO seem to do this most likely as it isn't
>spending enough time on previous moves and therefore gets into trouble where it
>needs the extra depth.
>
>Both games I was using Chessmaster 9000.
>
>[Event "Rated game, 30m + 15s"]
>[Site "Engine Room"]
>[Date "2004.03.04"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Sarah"]
>[Black "Ruffian 2.1.0"]
>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>[ECO "E15"]
>[WhiteElo "2541"]
>[BlackElo "2499"]
>[PlyCount "149"]
>[EventDate "2004.03.04"]
>[TimeControl "1800+15"]
>
>1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 2. c4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} e6 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 3. Nf3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} b6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 4. g3 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} Ba6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 5. b3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Bb4+ {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 6. Bd2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Be7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Bg2 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} c6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 8. Bc3 {[%emt 0:00:00]} d5 {[%emt 0:00:00]}
>9. Nbd2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nbd7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 10. O-O {[%emt 0:00:00]} O-O {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 11. Re1 {[%eval 15,11] [%emt 0:00:49]} Rc8 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 12.
>e4 {[%eval 28,11] [%emt 0:00:38]} Nxe4 {[%eval -5,13] [%emt 0:00:07]} 13. Nxe4
>{[%eval 35,11] [%emt 0:00:15]} dxe4 {[%eval 9,13] [%emt 0:00:53]} 14. Rxe4 {
>[%eval 44,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bb7 {[%eval 8,13] [%emt 0:01:05]} 15. Re3 {
>[%eval 36,11] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qc7 {[%eval 9,13] [%emt 0:00:45]} 16. Qc2 {
>[%eval 46,10] [%emt 0:00:34]} Rfd8 {[%eval 12,13] [%emt 0:00:20]} 17. Rae1 {
>[%eval 51,10] [%emt 0:00:44]} a5 {[%eval 8,13] [%emt 0:00:06]} 18. Bb2 {
>[%eval 64,10] [%emt 0:00:53]} b5 {[%eval 5,12] [%emt 0:00:55]} 19. R3e2 {
>[%eval 67,10] [%emt 0:00:40]} bxc4 {[%eval 0,13] [%emt 0:00:46]} 20. bxc4 {
>[%eval 70,10] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ba6 {[%eval 7,13] [%emt 0:01:25]} 21. Bc1 {
>[%eval 65,10] [%emt 0:00:46]} Nf6 {[%eval 10,13] [%emt 0:00:14]} 22. a3 {
>[%eval 70,10] [%emt 0:00:40]} Bf8 {[%eval -2,12] [%emt 0:01:18]} 23. Bf4 {
>[%eval 68,11] [%emt 0:00:40]} Bd6 {[%eval -7,13] [%emt 0:00:51]} 24. Ne5 {
>[%eval 79,11] [%emt 0:00:51]} c5 {[%eval 65,15] [%emt 0:07:40]} 25. d5 {
>[%eval 132,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} exd5 {[%eval 84,14] [%emt 0:00:56]} 26. Bg5 {
>[%eval 122,11] [%emt 0:00:00]} Bxe5 {[%eval 87,13] [%emt 0:00:29]} 27. Rxe5 {
>[%eval 150,11] [%emt 0:00:25]} Ne4 {[%eval 123,16] [%emt 0:04:14]} 28. Bf4 {
>[%eval 152,13] [%emt 0:00:00]} Qb6 {[%eval 123,14] [%emt 0:00:47]} 29. cxd5 {
>[%eval 182,12] [%emt 0:02:12]} Nd6 {[%eval 173,15] [%emt 0:02:22]} 30. Re7 {
>[%eval 173,12] [%emt 0:00:17]} Bb5 {[%eval 176,15] [%emt 0:04:05]} 31. Qb2 {
>[%eval 164,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rb8 {[%eval 187,13] [%emt 0:00:31]} 32. Be5 {
>[%eval 179,10] [%emt 0:00:37]} Rd7 {[%eval 181,13] [%emt 0:00:02]} 33. Bxg7 {
>[%eval 171,11] [%emt 0:00:26]} Rxe7 {[%eval 158,14] [%emt 0:00:05]} 34. Rxe7 {
>[%eval 161,11] [%emt 0:00:06]} Ba6 {[%eval 149,13] [%emt 0:00:09]} 35. Qxb6 {
>[%eval 134,13] [%emt 0:00:26]} Rxb6 {[%eval 147,16] [%emt 0:00:02]} 36. Bc3 {
>[%eval 99,13] [%emt 0:00:12]} Rb3 {[%eval 141,15] [%emt 0:00:04]} 37. Bxa5 {
>[%eval 93,13] [%emt 0:01:00]} Rxa3 {[%eval 98,16] [%emt 0:00:02]} 38. Be1 {
>[%eval 74,13] [%emt 0:00:42]} Ra1 {[%eval 79,14] [%emt 0:00:18]} 39. Bf1 {
>[%eval 63,14] [%emt 0:01:21]} Kf8 {[%eval 69,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 40. Ra7 {
>[%eval 73,15] [%emt 0:00:52]} Rxe1 {[%eval 73,17] [%emt 0:00:22]} 41. Rxa6 {
>[%eval 65,14] [%emt 0:00:07]} Ke7 {[%eval 71,16] [%emt 0:00:26]} 42. Rc6 {
>[%eval 77,14] [%emt 0:00:43]} Rd1 {[%eval 56,16] [%emt 0:00:18]} 43. Rxc5 {
>[%eval 82,15] [%emt 0:01:45]} Ne4 {[%eval 57,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} 44. Rc7+ {
>[%eval 75,15] [%emt 0:02:03]} Kd8 {[%eval 59,19] [%emt 0:00:00]} 45. Rxf7 {
>[%eval 101,15] [%emt 0:00:47]} Nd2 {[%eval 69,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} 46. Kg2 {
>[%eval 104,14] [%emt 0:00:41]} Rxf1 {[%eval 67,17] [%emt 0:00:24]} 47. Rxh7 {
>[%eval 103,13] [%emt 0:00:31]} Rd1 {[%eval 71,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 48. h4 {
>[%eval 96,13] [%emt 0:00:36]} Ne4 {[%eval 64,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} 49. g4 {
>Sarah offers a draw [%eval 99,13] [%emt 0:00:44]} Nf6 {
>[%eval 80,15] [%emt 0:00:41]} 50. Rh8+ {[%eval 105,13] [%emt 0:00:38]} Ke7 {
>[%eval 82,15] [%emt 0:00:29]} 51. d6+ {[%eval 96,13] [%emt 0:00:13]} Rxd6 {
>[%eval 92,15] [%emt 0:00:16]} 52. g5 {[%eval 103,13] [%emt 0:00:08]} Ne4 {
>[%eval 71,14] [%emt 0:00:26]} 53. Kf3 {[%eval 86,12] [%emt 0:00:12]} Rd4 {
>[%eval 49,14] [%emt 0:00:34]} 54. Ke3 {[%eval 86,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ra4 {
>[%eval 38,13] [%emt 0:00:19]} 55. f3 {[%eval 66,12] [%emt 0:00:05]} Nd6 {
>[%eval 43,14] [%emt 0:00:33]} 56. h5 {[%eval 45,12] [%emt 0:00:09]} Nf5+ {
>[%eval 42,13] [%emt 0:00:23]} 57. Kd3 {[%eval 25,12] [%emt 0:00:53]} Ra3+ {
>[%eval 42,13] [%emt 0:00:01]} 58. Ke4 {[%eval 19,14] [%emt 0:02:12]} Ke6 {
>[%eval 23,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} 59. h6 {[%eval 20,13] [%emt 0:03:28]} Ra4+ {
>[%eval 0,15] [%emt 0:00:00]} 60. Kd3 {[%eval 34,2] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf7 {
>[%eval 0,14] [%emt 0:00:30]} 61. Rc8 {[%eval 20,11] [%emt 0:00:13]} Kg6 {
>[%eval 0,14] [%emt 0:00:07]} 62. Rg8+ {[%eval 19,12] [%emt 0:00:10]} Kh7 {
>[%eval 0,15] [%emt 0:00:13]} 63. Rf8 {[%eval 19,12] [%emt 0:00:01]} Nxh6 {
>[%eval 0,14] [%emt 0:00:18]} 64. gxh6 {[%eval 19,15] [%emt 0:00:11]} Ra3+ {
>[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 65. Ke4 {[%eval 24,13] [%emt 0:00:07]} Kxh6 {
>[%emt 0:00:00]} 66. Rf5 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Ra2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 67.
>Rd5 {[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re2+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 68. Kf5 {
>[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rf2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 69. Ke4 {
>[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kg7 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 70. f4 {
>[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf6 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 71. Rc5 {
>[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re2+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 72. Kd4 {
>[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rf2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 73. Ke4 {
>[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Re2+ {[%emt 0:00:00]} 74. Kd4 {
>[%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} Rf2 {[%emt 0:00:00]} 75. Ke4 {
>(Lag: Av=0.36s, max=1.0s) [%eval 0,1] [%emt 0:00:00]} 1/2-1/2
>
>[Event "Rated game, 60m + 15s"]
>[Site "Engine Room"]
>[Date "2004.03.02"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Ruffian 2.1.0"]
>[Black "Sarah"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "D00"]
>[WhiteElo "2546"]
>[BlackElo "2538"]
>[PlyCount "84"]
>[EventDate "2004.01.30"]
>[TimeControl "3600+15"]
>
>1. d4 {[%emt 0:00:00]} Nf6 {[%eval 1,0] [%emt 0:00:00]} 2. Nc3 {
>[%eval -5,14] [%emt 0:01:35]} d5 {[%eval -42,13] [%emt 0:03:12]} 3. Bf4 {
>[%eval -8,14] [%emt 0:00:02]} e6 {[%eval -45,12] [%emt 0:02:05]} 4. e3 {
>[%eval -6,14] [%emt 0:00:02]} Bb4 {[%eval -42,12] [%emt 0:01:51]} 5. Bd3 {
>[%eval 2,14] [%emt 0:00:43]} c5 {[%eval -45,12] [%emt 0:02:08]} 6. dxc5 {
>[%eval -2,13] [%emt 0:02:03]} Nbd7 {[%eval -52,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} 7. Nge2 {
>[%eval -5,13] [%emt 0:01:16]} Bxc5 {[%eval -76,12] [%emt 0:02:01]} 8. O-O {
>[%eval -6,13] [%emt 0:00:01]} O-O {[%eval -72,12] [%emt 0:02:24]} 9. Nc1 {
>[%eval -9,14] [%emt 0:03:28]} Bb4 {[%eval -88,12] [%emt 0:01:18]} 10. Nb1 {
>[%eval -17,14] [%emt 0:01:15]} e5 {[%eval -117,12] [%emt 0:01:07]} 11. Bg3 {
>[%eval -26,13] [%emt 0:01:04]} Qc7 {[%eval -121,12] [%emt 0:01:37]} 12. Nd2 {
>[%eval -26,13] [%emt 0:01:31]} Nb6 {[%eval -119,12] [%emt 0:02:00]} 13. c3 {
>[%eval -26,14] [%emt 0:00:12]} Bd6 {[%eval -115,12] [%emt 0:01:13]} 14. a4 {
>[%eval -29,12] [%emt 0:00:02]} Be6 {[%eval -133,11] [%emt 0:01:10]} 15. Qc2 {
>[%eval -32,13] [%emt 0:00:03]} Nc4 {[%eval -119,12] [%emt 0:03:56]} 16. Rd1 {
>[%eval -18,13] [%emt 0:01:07]} Nxd2 {[%eval -118,11] [%emt 0:02:06]} 17. Rxd2 {
>[%eval -18,13] [%emt 0:01:08]} Rac8 {[%eval -112,11] [%emt 0:00:12]} 18. a5 {
>[%eval -14,13] [%emt 0:01:05]} a6 {[%eval -117,11] [%emt 0:01:09]} 19. Qd1 {
>[%eval -19,13] [%emt 0:00:10]} Rfd8 {[%eval -122,12] [%emt 0:01:39]} 20. Ra4 {
>[%eval -12,14] [%emt 0:00:28]} h6 {[%eval -121,10] [%emt 0:01:12]} 21. Bc2 {
>[%eval -5,13] [%emt 0:01:08]} Ne4 {[%eval -110,11] [%emt 0:00:45]} 22. Bxe4 {
>[%eval -33,16] [%emt 0:02:04]} dxe4 {[%eval -117,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} 23. Rxe4 {
>[%eval -56,15] [%emt 0:03:37]} Qxa5 {[%eval -130,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} 24. Nd3 {
>[%eval -58,13] [%emt 0:02:55]} f5 {[%eval -161,11] [%emt 0:01:16]} 25. Ra4 {
>[%eval -123,17] [%emt 0:10:33]} Qb5 {[%eval -168,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} 26. b4 {
>[%eval -115,13] [%emt 0:00:52]} Bc7 {[%eval -197,12] [%emt 0:02:36]} 27. Nc5 {
>[%eval -112,13] [%emt 0:01:13]} Rxd2 {[%eval -264,13] [%emt 0:03:09]} 28. Qxd2
>{[%eval -236,18] [%emt 0:04:32]} b6 {[%eval -289,14] [%emt 0:00:07]} 29. Nxe6 {
>[%eval -252,17] [%emt 0:00:59]} Qxa4 {[%eval -290,12] [%emt 0:00:00]} 30. h4 {
>[%eval -260,14] [%emt 0:01:19]} Bb8 {[%eval -365,13] [%emt 0:00:53]} 31. Qd3 {
>[%eval -303,15] [%emt 0:00:25]} Qe8 {[%eval -449,14] [%emt 0:02:18]} 32. Qxf5 {
>[%eval -340,17] [%emt 0:00:00]} g6 {[%eval -470,14] [%emt 0:03:03]} 33. Qf6 {
>[%eval -363,18] [%emt 0:03:12]} Qf7 {[%eval -589,15] [%emt 0:00:31]} 34. Bxe5 {
>[%eval -401,18] [%emt 0:00:24]} Qxf6 {[%eval -571,15] [%emt 0:01:15]} 35. Bxf6
>{[%eval -430,18] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kf7 {[%eval -539,15] [%emt 0:00:59]} 36. Bd4 {
>[%eval -430,16] [%emt 0:00:00]} Kxe6 {[%eval -599,15] [%emt 0:02:12]} 37. Kf1 {
>[%eval -467,15] [%emt 0:00:30]} Be5 {[%eval -620,14] [%emt 0:00:32]} 38. Bxb6 {
>[%eval -526,14] [%emt 0:01:23]} Bxc3 {[%eval -638,14] [%emt 0:00:00]} 39. Ba5 {
>[%eval -553,14] [%emt 0:00:53]} Rc4 {[%eval -689,14] [%emt 0:00:47]} 40. Ke2 {
>[%eval -655,15] [%emt 0:03:05]} Bxb4 {[%eval -765,14] [%emt 0:00:48]} 41. Bb6 {
>[%eval -689,14] [%emt 0:00:05]} Rxh4 {[%eval -779,13] [%emt 0:00:25]} 42. f3 {
>[%eval -672,14] [%emt 0:00:45]} a5 {Ruffian 2.1.0 Opgeven? [%eval -827,14] [%emt
>0:00:46]} 0-1
>
>Sarah.
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