Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 04:47:18 03/05/04
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On March 05, 2004 at 04:32:39, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On March 05, 2004 at 04:11:37, Geert van der Wulp wrote: > > >>p.s. Why do the SSDF use autoplayer to check results instead of writing their >>own software? > >? > >Why should they write or use OWN software ? >The auto232 is ok. Only the chessbase auto232 stuff is not ok, and the way >foreign engines get disadvantages when used in chessbase gui's. >This is all known for ages. *all* interfaces joining there are using tricks. If you are not using tricks, just forget it. That far it has gone. The best example is that of a contest between 10 factories competing who produces most computers a year. Each night 1 factory goes out stealing to the other factories and cheaply can increase their production figures doing that. All factories are producing not extremely much more than the other. So that stealing gives a huge advantage to that factory. You can of course invest a lot of money protecting yourself so that only a small part of your production gets stolen, but even then the stealing factory will win, because it will steal from others. So the only way to win that contest is both protect yourself and steal from others. *that* is the big problem in SSDF. They must simply not accept software that is using tricks deviating from the protocol. If they do that, they are just busy creating a 'who steals more' contest. Stealing points by 100 tricks is far more effective than winning a game over the board by magnificent play. If i work for 2 years fulltime just at the engine, perhaps i can improve it 200 points? I do not know. You tell me. Depends of course where you would locate current diep version. But if i simply have a trick that gives my opponent just 1 MB of hashtables and gives it 25% system time and aborts all lost games of me, that will increase my rating by 750 rating points *for sure*. >The protocoll used in Shredder classic, or in other NON chessbase programs >works. >the chessbase autoplayer is not a serious tool. > >But all people accepted it. Not because it is ok, but because we had no choice.
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