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Subject: Re: Question about the nps difference between MiniMax and AB

Author: Mathieu Pagé

Date: 06:15:59 03/05/04

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On March 05, 2004 at 00:56:20, Tony Werten wrote:

>On March 04, 2004 at 15:16:43, Mathieu Pagé wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I've just change my minimax algorithm for an AB one. (Yes I know i should have
>>done this long long time ago, but i did want to keep it simple until it could
>>play a complete game and understand _all_ the chess rules).
>>
>>As expected my engines can search deeper (3-4 more plys) than the old version in
>>the same time, but the NPS drop dramatically, going from 3.6M nodes/s to a
>>little bit over 2M nodes/s. It's about 44 % decrease.
>>
>>I think it is normal that the nps of Minimax was greater then AB's one because
>>in AB lot of move are generated, but not searched (so they are not add to the
>>number of nodes)
>>
>>but i think that going from 3.6M to 2M is a big difference.
>
>Not really. You spend more time in ordering the moves now. Not only the ordering
>itself, but also a lot more memory references. ie probing the hashtable, probing
>killertables, maybe history table. And of coarse, you have to remove those moves
>from the movelist. Did you already split your move generation in captures and
>non-captures ?

at a first sight your answer seem to confirm what I was expecting, but is your
answer the same if I tell you that I have (still) no ordering, no hashtable, no
killertable, no history ...

What I have is a plain AlphaBeta with iterative deepening.

Mahtieu P.



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