Author: Uri Blass
Date: 06:25:16 03/05/04
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On March 05, 2004 at 09:10:12, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On March 05, 2004 at 09:02:41, Albert Silver wrote: > >>On March 05, 2004 at 08:55:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>On March 05, 2004 at 08:49:14, Albert Silver wrote: >>> >>>Please ask SSDF at what hardware they *really* test, not what is put in the >>>list. And/or whether they use time compensation. >>> >>>I really like to see all games they play and like to be able to see the moves >>>played there show up at the screen here too. That is something SSDF can easily >>>provide (only count for their rating list games that get published) and should >>>do to start with to get more credibility. >>> >>>How can you test things without having the games? >>> >>>There is just 1 tester who publishes games AFAIK. >> >>And the games he publishes suggest different hardware is being used? Yes? You >>don't need every game played. Just a few should be necessary to see whether the >>times and depths published correspond to the announced hardware configuration >>used. Or are you suggesting he uses different hardware than the other testers? >> >>If you can show that the games played and published by Tony Hedlund here do NOT >>correspond to the announced hardware, you have a point, otherwise, you're just >>making accusations with no facts of any kind to sustain your position. So either >>show some kind of analytical evidence to back up your position, or state >>outright that you believe Hedlund is rebelling against the SSDF and is using the >>announced hardware contrary to the rest of the testers. >> >> Albert > >You are not reading what i wrote. I say 1 tester is transparant, the rest is >not. > >That's my statement. > >If i keep a tournament without publishing results, but claim A, then even Uri >posts he doesn't believe it until he sees proof. > >Why do you believe SSDF? I guess that people believe them because they get similiar results also based on other tests. I do not say that things are 100% correct but if one program is really 200 elo better or 200 elo worse than the ssdf results then it can be easily demonstrated. Uri
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