Author: Albert Silver
Date: 06:37:43 03/05/04
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>>>Please ask SSDF at what hardware they *really* test, not what is put in the
>>>list. And/or whether they use time compensation.
You tell me you are making no accustations, but ask me to ask the SSDF what they
*really* test, and not what is put in the list. If that's not an accusation, I
don't know what is.
You claim there are a thousand tricks being used to fake the results, and that
these could be seen in the games not available. This is a clear accusation of
foul play. Since you also claim the hardware being used is not the announced
hardware, an accusation the SSDF is lying, and using only a single computer,
this should be possible to see in the games published. But no, when I ask you to
show evidence of this with the published games, you have nothing, and instead
claim it is with the games you don't see. Yes, it is in the games we don't see
that they are using a single cpu with evil Fritz eating up all the resources of
the other programs.
You actually manage to say:
"Read me well, i do NOT accuse Karlsson from that. Not at all."
even though in the exact previous line you state:
"People pay Karlsson. Perhaps people who pay get fake games?"
So you aren't saying he is paid to produce fake games, just that he is paid to
do the SSDF work. Correct?
You're not accusing the SSDF of using different hardware than announced, instead
you're "sure of it". After writing pages stating the results are all bunk due to
the tricks being used by the underhanded (cheating) GUIs of Chessbase and
Shredder, you now claim you didn't mean that at all, but that the testers make
mistakes.
Let me just get this straight according to what you have stated:
The issue of the Chessbase auto232 protocol is resolved since the SSDF tests on
a single CPU. The results of the top engines are at least in part due to special
tricks in the GUI so that non-Chessbase engines playing against a Chessbase
engine only get a small portion of the resources of that single CPU machine the
match is running on. Note that the one exception to all of these hidden SSDF
operations is Tony Hedlund as he publishes all his games. So the cheating and
falsified hardware is with all of SSDF except Tony Hedlund. After all, there is
no proof of the contrary as you say all the time ("Why do you believe SSDF?" and
"There is not a single proof of the opposite here."). The one small exception of
Shredder UCI (which runs in its own GUI BTW, and uses its own opening book)
getting excellent results is possibly because Chessbase ordered it. Karlsson is
paid for his SSDF work by "people", but not necessarily to fake games.
I was going to leave it at that, since it just looks so unbelievably weak as to
be ludicrous, but I'll state the obvious: you have made tons of accusations,
without providing a SINGLE shred of evidence that MIGHT corroborate them. The
only thing you have managed is that there is no proof of the contrary. Even the
games that are published are declared to be exceptions to the accusations.
Please don't think me rude, but you are aware, I am sure, that this all reads
like a known medical condition.
Albert
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