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Subject: Re: How to enable Numa support within Windows 2003 Enterprise Edition

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:04:11 03/05/04

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On March 05, 2004 at 08:47:24, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On March 04, 2004 at 13:28:53, Keith Evans wrote:
>
>>On March 04, 2004 at 12:42:24, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On March 04, 2004 at 09:44:00, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 03, 2004 at 21:29:39, David B wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have a Tyan 2885 currently not sure if its a bios setting or just an OS
>>>>>setting within Windows 2003 Enterprise Edition though its supposed to support
>>>>>numa which to the life of me I can not get it to do.   Each processor currently
>>>>>is running 1gig of ram with Opteron 244's
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>I recommend reading the following;
>>>>
>>>>http://www.tyan.com/support/html/f_s2885.html
>>>
>>>David,
>>>
>>>Except for DIEP which has NUMA versions, and SOS which is multiprocessing too,
>>>but heavily relying upon shared memory, which program do you plan to run that
>>>profits from a NUMA machine setup?
>>>
>>>Nevertheless in your manual from your tyan mainboard you can find how to get
>>>numa to work. If i remember well the best thing to do is just fill up all memory
>>>banks with memory. That's the best way to do it always.
>>
>>I understand that Crafty supports NUMA under Windows.
>
>All crafty does do is put a thread to a specific cpu. Though that is important
>condition to run NUMA, it doesn't mean that all other stuff you need for NUMA
>gets used.

There is far more to it than that.

Bit continue digging your way to stupidity, you are doing a good job so far...

>
>It's multithreading of course, so it's completely SMP in that respect.

multi-threading does _not_ mean non-NUMA.  Perhaps you can't do it, as ususl...





>
>I've already explained it a dozen times here. Bob just claims it's NUMA, but he
>has not even written the code himself, so he doesn't even know what he talks
>about.

Have you seen my linux numa code?  of course not as I chose to not to release
the libNUMA changes because most kernels don't support it.  But don't let a
complete lack of information keep you from spouting nonsense and looking (as
always) like a complete fool...  We're all pretty well used to it by now...






>
>I claim the dual opteron platform to be a better SMP platform than dual P4 Xeon
>or dual K7. That it is NUMA too is just good for those who support NUMA. Crafty
>in itself will NOT run at NUMA hardware like Origin3800 or Altix3000.
>
>There NUMA means the random latency from this processors memory to other
>processors memory is *significant* slower than that of the SMP machines.
>
>So crafty is not NUMA at all. It doesn't run on NUMA machines other than the
>only NUMA machine where SMP is faster than SMP at others.
>
>Best regards,
>Vincent



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