Author: margolies,marc
Date: 19:22:09 03/07/04
Go up one level in this thread
here are some reasons:
many closed positions where players search for a long-term strategic advantage
that (in the past) could not be recognized by an engine.
the kinds of end-games which resolved these postitions were not understood by
engines (pre egtb).
in the mid-ninety's hiarcs3 could achieve a winning eg (kpr v kr)against an
average/strong KID player which could esult in draw for black as HIARCS was not
technically resolving the tabia.
On March 07, 2004 at 21:37:26, Mike Byrne wrote:
>I have often heard that chess programmers like to steer their programs away from
>the King's Indian -- any thoughts on that why it may be true because it seems to
>be very solid for Black with most of best players playing it.
>
>Coincidently, I recently picked up Gligoric's Kings Indian Defence: Mar Del
>Plata Variation - Svetozar is an excellent chesswriter and I enjoyed his writing
>style so much I also picked up his "I Play Against Pieces". His style does not
>overwhelm you with variations but actually uses the words to express the ideas
>behind his thinking. He is clearly one of the best chess writers.
>
>
>Below is game against Fischer that he won. This yet another game that I had to
>correct from Chesslib database. The game actually ended at move 44. - the
>database shows Fischer getting mated which simply did not happen. I sprinked
>juts a couple the annotations from Gligoric's book to show you his style. The
>game in the book is much more heavily annotated.
>
>
>[Event "Warna"]
>[Site "Warna"]
>[Date "1962.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Fischer, Robert J"]
>[Black "Gligoric, Svetozar"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "B80"]
>[PlyCount "88"]
>[EventDate "1962.??.??"]
>[Source "www.ChessliB.no"]
>[SourceDate "2003.02.24"]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. g3 e6 7. Bg2 Be7 8. O-O
>O-O 9. f4 Qc7 10. g4 Nc6 11. Nxc6 bxc6 12. g5 Nd7 13. f5 Re8 {Trying to orgnaize
>some kind of defense against the threat of f5-f6 (Gligoric)}14. Kh1 Bf8 15.
>Bf4 Ne5 16. f6 g6 17. h4 a5 18. h5 Ba6 19. Re1 Qb6 20. hxg6 fxg6 21. Bxe5
>{Removing the knight that might come to f7 (Gligoric)} dxe5
>22. Qf3 Ra7 23. Bf1 Rf7 24. Bxa6 Qxa6 25. Qg3 Qb6 26. Qxe5 Qxb2 27. Rad1 h6 28.
>Re3 Bb4 29. gxh6 Qxc2 30. Rg1 Kh7 31. Qg3 Rg8 32. e5 Bxc3 33. Rxc3 Qe4+ 34. Rg2
>Rd8 35. Re3 Qb1+ 36. Kh2 Rd1 37. Qg4 Rh1+ 38. Kg3 Qc1 {
>
>[d]8/5r1k/2p1pPpP/p3P3/6Q1/4R1K1/P5R1/2q4r w - - 0 39
>Although Ree2 might have offered tougher resistance. (Byrne)
>
>39. Re4? (39. Ree2 Rd7 40.
>Qe4 Rh5 41. Rc2 Qa3+) 39... Rd7 40. Qe2 Qg5+ 41. Qg4 Rd3+ 42. Kf2 Rd2+ 43. Kg3
>Rxg2+ 44. Kxg2 Qc1 0-1
This page took 0.01 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.