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Subject: start your engines ...

Author: Mike Byrne

Date: 18:57:50 03/09/04


a good soul posted this game on r.g.c.c -- a gem in the r.g.c.c minefield ...

the year was 1985 - a period when  Kasparov was still crescending to the top of
his game  ....mightbe good PDA test ...a tad too easy for PC I believe

[Event "Blitz:1'"]
[Site "Secane, PA USA"]
[Date "1985.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Kasparov Garry"]
[Black "Meph68000"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C97"]
[PlyCount "76"]
[TimeControl "60"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. c3
O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 c5 11. d4 Qc7 12. d5 Bd7 13. b3 Qb6 14. Nbd2 Rfc8 15. Nf1
h6 16. Be3 Qd8 17. Qd2 Nh7 18. Ng3 Rab8 19. Nf5 Bxf5 20. exf5 Nf6 21. g4 Nh7
22. Kg2 Rb7 23. Rh1 Nf6 24. Rag1 Qb6 25. Kf1 Rd7 26. g5 hxg5 27. Nxg5 Qb7 28.
Ne6 fxe6 29. fxe6 Rdc7 {
[d] 2r3k1/1qr1b1p1/p2pPn2/nppPp3/8/1PP1B2P/P1BQ1P2/5KRR w - - 0 30

}30. Rxg7+ Kxg7 31. Bh6+ Kh8 32. Bg7+ Kxg7 33. Qg5+ Kf8 34. Qh6+ Ke8 35. Bg6+
Kd8 36. Qh8+ Bf8 37. Qxf6+ Be7 38. Rg1
Bxf6 1-0

now here's the interesting part -- if leave Crafty think on its own - on my
machine it will search for over 8 minutes without seeing the mate score - but if
I just stop it after two minutes , backup a move and restart it - it will mate
almost instantly  -   why is that?

White(1): kra kas
  queen value..........................900
  rook value...........................500
  bishop value.........................300
  knight value.........................300
  pawn value...........................100
  personality setting..................41
  personality name ..................  Kasparov




White(1): 2r3k1/1qr1b1p1/p2pPn2/nppPp3/8/1PP1B2P/P1BQ1P2/5KRR w - - 0 30
White(1): search Rxg7
White(1): go
              clearing hash tables
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 166666:39 (166666:39)/(30)
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 166666:39 (166666:39)/(30)
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
                1     0.00  -3.11   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7
                1->   0.00  -3.11   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7
                2     0.00  -3.04   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Rg1+ Kh8
                2->   0.00  -3.04   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Rg1+ Kh8
                3     0.01     --   1. Rxg7+
                3     0.01  -3.76   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. c4 bxc4
                3->   0.01  -3.76   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. c4 bxc4
                4     0.01  -3.71   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bg5 Nxd5 3. Bf5
                4->   0.01  -3.71   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bg5 Nxd5 3. Bf5
                5     0.03     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
                5     0.04  -2.65   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Rg1+ Kf8 3. Bg6 Kg8
                                    4. Bf7+ Kf8
                5->   0.04  -2.65   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Rg1+ Kf8 3. Bg6 Kg8
                                    4. Bf7+ Kf8
                6     0.07  -2.46   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Rg1+ Kh8 3. Bxc5 Nh7
                                    4. Bb4 Qb6
                6->   0.07  -2.46   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Rg1+ Kh8 3. Bxc5 Nh7
                                    4. Bb4 Qb6
                7     0.17     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
                7     0.22  -0.78   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kg8
                                    4. Rg1 Ng4 5. Rxg4 c4
                7->   0.22  -0.78   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kg8
                                    4. Rg1 Ng4 5. Rxg4 c4
                8     0.28     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
                8     1.09  10.21   1. Rxg7+ Kf8 2. Bh6 Nh5 3. Rh7+ Kg8
                                    4. Rg1+ Bg5 5. Rxc7 Qxc7 6. Qxg5+ Ng7
                                    7. Bxg7
                8->   1.09  10.21   1. Rxg7+ Kf8 2. Bh6 Nh5 3. Rh7+ Kg8
                                    4. Rg1+ Bg5 5. Rxc7 Qxc7 6. Qxg5+ Ng7
                                    7. Bxg7
                9     1.61     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
                9     2.92  13.75   1. Rxg7+ Kf8 2. Bh6 Nh5 3. Rh7+ Kg8
                                    4. Rg1+ Bg5 5. Qxg5+ Rg7 6. Bxg7 Ng3+
                                    7. Rxg3 Qxd5
                9->   2.92  13.75   1. Rxg7+ Kf8 2. Bh6 Nh5 3. Rh7+ Kg8
                                    4. Rg1+ Bg5 5. Qxg5+ Rg7 6. Bxg7 Ng3+
                                    7. Rxg3 Qxd5
               10     4.48     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
               10     9.56  14.73   1. Rxg7+ Kf8 2. Bh6 Ne4 3. Bxe4 Bf6
                                    4. Rxc7+ Ke8 5. Rxb7 Nxb7 6. Bg6+ Ke7
                                    7. Ke2
               10->   9.57  14.73   1. Rxg7+ Kf8 2. Bh6 Ne4 3. Bxe4 Bf6
                                    4. Rxc7+ Ke8 5. Rxb7 Nxb7 6. Bg6+ Ke7
                                    7. Ke2
               11    21.00  14.93   1. Rxg7+ Kf8 2. Bh6 Ne4 3. Bxe4 Bf6
                                    4. Rxc7+ Ke8 5. Bg6+ Kd8 6. Rxb7 Nxb7
                                    7. Ke2 Ke7 8. h4
               11->  21.00  14.93   1. Rxg7+ Kf8 2. Bh6 Ne4 3. Bxe4 Bf6
                                    4. Rxc7+ Ke8 5. Bg6+ Kd8 6. Rxb7 Nxb7
                                    7. Ke2 Ke7 8. h4
               12    26.57     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
?              12     2:15   1/35*  1. Rxg7+
White(1): ?
              time=2:16  cpu=97%  mat=-2  n=113089105  fh=98%  nps=828K
              ext-> chk=11568172 cap=129738 pp=604231 1rep=2514012 mate=15718
              predicted=0  nodes=113089105  evals=3754318  50move=0
              endgame tablebase-> probes=0  hits=0
              SMP->  split=0  stop=0  data=0/128  cpu=2:13  elap=2:16

White(1): Rxg7+
              time used:   2:16

stop it after two minutes = undo restart in then in < than second it announced
mate - the first time I let it go for 8 minutes with no mate score - this is all
with learning off
Black(1): undo
NOTICE: 60 moves to next time control
White(1): go
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 166666:39 (166666:39)/(30)
              time surplus   0.00  time limit 166666:39 (166666:39)/(30)
              depth   time  score   variation (1)
                1     0.01  -1.31   1. Bh6
                1->   0.01  -1.31   1. Bh6
                2     0.01  -1.27   1. Bh6 Nh5
                2     0.01     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
                2->   0.01  -0.92   1. Rxg7+
                3     0.01     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
                3->   0.03  -0.53   1. Rxg7+
                4     0.03     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
                4     0.03   5.40   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kxg7
                                    4. Rg1+ Ng4 5. Rxg4+ Bg5 6. Qxg5+ <HT>
                4->   0.03   5.40   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kxg7
                                    4. Rg1+ Ng4 5. Rxg4+ Bg5 6. Qxg5+ <HT>
                5     0.03     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
                5->   0.04   5.79   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kxg7
                                    4. Rg1+ Ng4 5. Rxg4+ Bg5 6. Qxg5+ <HT>
                6     0.04     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
                6->   0.06   6.18   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kxg7
                                    4. Rg1+ Ng4 5. Rxg4+ Bg5 6. Qxg5+ <HT>
                7     0.06     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
                7->   0.10   6.57   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kxg7
                                    4. Rg1+ Ng4 5. Rxg4+ Bg5 6. Qxg5+ <HT>
                                    (s=4)
                8     0.10     ++   1. Rxg7+!!
                8     0.29  Mat09   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kxg7
                                    4. Qg5+ Kf8 5. Qh6+ Ke8 6. Bg6+ Kd8
                                    7. Qh8+ Ng8 8. Qxg8+ Bf8 9. Qxf8# (s=3)
                8->   0.32  Mat09   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kxg7
                                    4. Qg5+ Kf8 5. Qh6+ Ke8 6. Bg6+ Kd8
                                    7. Qh8+ Ng8 8. Qxg8+ Bf8 9. Qxf8#
                9     0.43  Mat09   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kxg7
                                    4. Qg5+ Kf8 5. Qh6+ Ke8 6. Bg6+ Kd8
                                    7. Qh8+ Ng8 8. Qxg8+ Bf8 9. Qxf8#
                9->   0.50  Mat09   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kxg7
                                    4. Qg5+ Kf8 5. Qh6+ Ke8 6. Bg6+ Kd8
                                    7. Qh8+ Ng8 8. Qxg8+ Bf8 9. Qxf8# (s=2)
               10     1.10  Mat09   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kxg7
                                    4. Qg5+ Kf8 5. Qh6+ Ke8 6. Bg6+ Kd8
                                    7. Qh8+ Ng8 8. Qxg8+ Bf8 9. Qxf8#
               10->   1.25  Mat09   1. Rxg7+ Kxg7 2. Bh6+ Kh8 3. Bg7+ Kxg7
                                    4. Qg5+ Kf8 5. Qh6+ Ke8 6. Bg6+ Kd8
                                    7. Qh8+ Ng8 8. Qxg8+ Bf8 9. Qxf8#
?              11     1.25   1/35*  1. Rxg7+
White(1): ?
              time=9.25  cpu=93%  mat=-2  n=7123182  fh=99%  nps=770K
              ext-> chk=782149 cap=6588 pp=22572 1rep=166710 mate=1578
              predicted=0  nodes=7123182  evals=796  50move=0
              endgame tablebase-> probes=0  hits=0
              SMP->  split=0  stop=0  data=0/128  cpu=8.61  elap=9.25



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