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Subject: Re: Fun Rating List including Ruffian 2.1.0

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 13:20:31 03/12/04

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On March 12, 2004 at 16:05:54, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 12, 2004 at 16:02:18, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On March 12, 2004 at 15:00:31, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On March 12, 2004 at 14:22:29, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Sarah
>>>>A fantastic performance of Rufian 2.1.0
>>>>Kurt
>>>
>>>
>>>11 Ruffian 2.1.0         : 2623   62  46   114    53.9 %   2596   37.7 %
>>>17 Ruffian 2.0.0         : 2602   37  56   150    49.0 %   2609   40.7 %
>>>21 Ruffian 1.0.1         : 2583   46  32   220    51.4 %   2573   38.2 %
>>>
>>>statistical error is bigger than the 40 elo
>>>
>>
>>As I'm sure you're aware Uri bringing down the statistical error requires
>>thousands of games, for example:
>>
>>On this same list is good old Fritz 6. And even after 1224 games still shows
>>statistically that it could be 19 points stronger or 14 points weaker than it's
>>current rating.
>>30 Fritz 6               : 2543   19  14  1224    53.0 %   2523   37.5 %
>>
>>All I'm saying is playing another 200 games with this engine will not resolve
>>that issue for you.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>I do not blame you of not playing enough games and I only responded to the
>fantastic result claim.
>
>If the result is really fantastic then there is no doubt that there is an
>improvement.
>If there is only small improvement I cannot define the result as fantastic.
>

To say the result is fantastic or not, you have to define "fantastic" first.
 And you have to define it with mathematical statements of course. But if we
start defining every expression with the math language then our communication
will be dry and all the emotions will be vanished. Accuracy is good but not
always.
 Kurt expressed a feeling it had based on his instinct and that's all.



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