Author: Mark Young
Date: 09:07:50 12/10/98
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On December 10, 1998 at 12:01:11, Dan Kiski wrote: >On December 10, 1998 at 11:51:17, Mark Young wrote: > >>On December 10, 1998 at 11:35:09, Dan Kiski wrote: >> >>>On December 10, 1998 at 11:05:25, Mark Young wrote: >>> >>>>On December 10, 1998 at 10:56:28, Dan Kiski wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 10, 1998 at 10:08:04, Mark Young wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 10, 1998 at 09:55:37, Dan Kiski wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On December 10, 1998 at 09:42:03, Mark Young wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On December 10, 1998 at 09:13:52, Dan Kiski wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On December 10, 1998 at 08:44:29, Mark Young wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>On December 10, 1998 at 08:34:29, Jouni Uski wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>So are You testing with random openings. If yes I think 14 games is almost >>>>>>>>>>>meaningless! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>It is not just 14 games. I am running the same settings as other people that are >>>>>>>>>>posting here. *To add to the game count*. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I could not run any more games then what I did for this testing. This was the >>>>>>>>>>limit for CM at one time. And if you read my post, I am running more games with >>>>>>>>>>the same settings. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>SO IT IS NOT MEANINGLESS!!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>As I already stated I agree meaningless, the nunn positions as a start basis >>>>>>>>>should be utilized, since opening books are so large and any results over 14 >>>>>>>>>games could be only based on opening advantage. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I sorry, I must be typing in an invisible ink. WE ARE PLAYING MORE THE 14 GAMES. >>>>>>>> THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN MORE THE 14 GAMES WITH MOST OF THESE SETTING POSTED >>>>>>>>ALREADY. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Dan Kiski >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Ok so you are playing more than 14 games, how many opening variations does your >>>>>>>computer play, will you play them all as white and black. I can read your ink >>>>>>>just can't see why you don't see the results as what they are MEANINGLESS. And >>>>>>>that in fact you are just wasting your time by even playing them without setting >>>>>>>out specific unbiased criteria for how you are playing them. >>>>>> >>>>>>I am just lost, I have only been testing chess programs for over 15 years. >>>>>> >>>>>>You don't know what criteria I have laid out. Because all I am doing is sharing >>>>>>raw game data with others that are doing the same thing. >>>>>> >>>>>You have no criteria, >>>>Wow, What else do you know. Is this just your opinion or are you stating a fact? >>>> >>>> no set openings, no set game amount limitation. As for >>>>>time testing, >>>> >>>>I bought a chess challenger 7 in 1978, >>>> >>>>So did I but there was not much to test it against in 78. >>>> >>>> >>>>I guess I'll claim 20 >>>>>years. >>>> >>>>I don't care what you claim for yourself, Just don't make claim about me. >>>>Because you don't know what you are talking about. >>> >>>I never made any claim about you ?? >> >>Yes you have "You have no criteria" You made a claim about me and what I am >>doing with this data I am sharing and the data and setting I am getting from >>other people. You don't have a clue in what I am doing with this data I am >>sharing. Nor have you asked. So why don't you before you open your mouth and >>make a fool of yourself again > >I see exactly what you are doing with the data as others also do, Please let us all know wise one. What am I doing with the data? Give us your opinion on what I am doing. Please post more. and I repeat >you have no criteria, and I repeat I am entitled to my opinion. If you don't >like my opinions that's too bad, but I will post whatever I want when I want. >I don't have to ask about the criteria others have and I have seen the response. >If you choose to take the no criteria as a personnel comment on you, then so be >it that is your problem, however according to all these posts I am not the only >one with this opinion. >Dan Kiski > > > > > >> >> I made a statement about the games tests you >>>were playing, how would I know what I am talking about when I don't know you??. >>>However I like all others am entitled to my opinion of the tests you conduct and >>>post here, and fortunately am entitled to post what that opinion is. >>>FREE SPEECH. >> >>Yes you have FREE SPEECH, And I am not stopping you from posting. I love it. I >>will give you all the rope you want. >> >>>Dan Kiski.
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