Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 00:27:13 03/14/04
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On March 14, 2004 at 03:06:56, Jorge Pichard wrote: >On March 13, 2004 at 21:40:15, John Merlino wrote: > >>On March 13, 2004 at 21:27:48, Bas Hamstra wrote: >> >>>On March 13, 2004 at 21:13:46, John Merlino wrote: >>> >>>>On March 13, 2004 at 21:10:30, Bas Hamstra wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi John, >>>>> >>>>>I feel honoured and thanks for the lessons :-/ >>>>> >>>>>But why you played the match with ponder=off? This might affect timemanagement a >>>>>bit. Not that the result would have been much different otherwise, I'm afraid, >>>>>since TheKing is one of the happy few. >>>>> >>>>>Bas. >>>> >>>>If you would like, I can do the same tournament (or a different one) with >>>>pondering on. This is no problem, as I run them overnight. >>>> >>>>As for time management, I noticed that Tao is a bit liberal with its use of the >>>>clock. Of course, just about every engine appears liberal next to The King, >>>>which is notoriously conservative. There were many times when The King had more >>>>than 10 minutes left on the clock, and Tao had less than 5. >>>> >>>>Let me know what you want to do. I have always respected Tao as an excellent >>>>engine, and a new version definitely begs to be tested. >>> >>>The same match with ponder on would be perfect. I suspect the timetrouble will >>>be a bit less, since most engines are tuned for ponder=on and turning it off can >>>seriously distort timemanagement. Some have taken measurements to cope with that >>>(for instance when ponder=off allocate 0.75 of the normal time) but Tao does >>>not. Also, if possible, could you play with the gui's book? Tao's default book >>>is small and a bit outdated, I'm afraid. Book learning is the next point on my >>>agenda... >>> >>>Best regards, >>> >>>Bas. >> >>No problem. I'll start that tournament tonight. Results tomorrow about the same >>time. >> >>-- Ponder=off. >>-- CM default book for both engines (which should also greatly improve Tao's >>time usage). >> >>jm According to this tourney they are very even, but nobody knows what will happen if they are matched in a 20 games at 30 Minutes per side. Athlon 2000 128mb hash each 3,4,5 piece tablebases All using Fritz Powerbook (maximum variety, minimum 4 games, no learning) 40 moves in 40 minutes repeating. Ponder off Tournament run under Fritz GUI Round 53 Rebel 12 v Gandalf 5 (0-1) Nimzo 8 v Ruffian 2.0.0 (0-1) List 512 v SOS 4 (0-1) Junior 8 v Shredder 8 (draw) Hiarcs 9 v Aristarch 4.37 (draw) Fritz 8 v Chess Tiger 15 (1-0) El Chinito 3.25 v Crafty 19.08 (draw) Deep Sjeng 1.5 v Chessmaster 9000 (draw) STANDINGS Shredder 8 - 36.5 Fritz 8 - 32.5 Chess Tiger 15 - 32.0 Hiarcs 9 - 30.5 Ruffian 2.0.0 - 30.0 List 512 - 29.5 Deep Sjeng 1.5 - 29.0 Chessmaster 9000 - 26.0 El Chinito 3.25 - 25.5 Junior 8 - 24.5 Aristarch 4.37 - 23.5 Gandalf 5 - 23.0 Rebel 12 - 21.0 SOS 4 - 21.0 Crafty 19.08 - 20.0 Nimzo 8 - 19.5
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