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Subject: Re: Another Fruit question

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:11:25 03/14/04

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On March 14, 2004 at 06:54:07, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 14, 2004 at 06:25:00, GeoffW wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>I have been playing a few games with Fruit recently, the thing that I found most
>>surprising about it was the amazing time to depth of its search algorithm. My
>>progrma is not especially slow but it was lagging usually 1 or 2 ply in the
>>opening and 3 or so ply in the middlegame.
>>I am sure Fabien said it was a slow searcher in one of his posts !! I wish I
>>could make my program as slow a searcher as Fruit :-)
>
>Fabian talked about nodes per second and it is slow only relative to a fast
>searcher like Crafty.
>
>It is not slow relative to real slow searchers like tscp or Hiarcs or Biglion or
>chessmaster or Abrok or Diep or gothmog or chess system tal or Movei(I only
>mentioned these programs because I know that they are slow searchers and I do
>not care if the reason is not doing optimization(tscp case),Big
>evaluation(Diep's case) or expensive search rules(probably the case for part of
>the other programs like chessmaster or biglion) or different reasons in the case
>of movei.
>
>I do not know about the speed of your modified tscp in nodes per second and it
>may be also faster than your program.

>
>My reasons include not having function to generate only captures or only
>captures and checks when my qsearch generate list of legal moves before finding
>the captures and checks and changing it(at least in the qsearch) means also
>changing my evaluation because I use the number of legal moves for my mobility
>evaluation and I was afraid to change it because it is not a trivial change and
>I am afraid from bugs in the process.
>
>I am sure that a change in my mobility that is not going to count number moves
>can be productive both for faster search in nodes per second and for better
>evaluation(I should not evaluate backward moves the same as forward moves) but
>the problem is that I am less optimistic about my ability to do it without bugs
>so I even did not try to do it.
>
>Uri

To make the post more clear the part that begins with my reasons is not
connected with the previous 2 lines.

I thought to add later that I will add the reasons at the end of the post and
simply forgot to do it.

Uri



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