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Subject: Re: Ruffian 2 and SSDF

Author: Mike S.

Date: 16:18:37 03/14/04

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On March 14, 2004 at 12:54:04, Uri Blass wrote:

>Is CSS rating list played with pondering and at 120/40 time control?

No, 10m+10s without pondering.

What is more representative for the usual practise? I'd say shorter time
controls than 40/2h, because I guess only correspondence players - like you,
though :-)) - use more than 1 minute per position in games or analysis often
(and maybe some grandmasters and their seconds, but they aren't relevant SSDF
audience). Also, most computerchess users will have single cpu computers (or two
which are not identical) and therefore no ponder tests are much more relevant
IMO.

There is no definition of conditions for a "true" strength.

Another example: The WBEC Ridderkerk competitions are played with 40/40m, ponder
on (I think on a dual; I'm not sure at the moment). Very good condititions IMO,
a kind of compromise.

Anyway, if SSDF would decide to shorten the time controls to 40/40m or even
60/30m or the like, I'd appreciate it. The main problem currently is, that
engines don't play equal numbers of games against the same opponents for the
SSDF ratings, unlike in the CSS ratings which are done like that (except the
head-to-head match of course, when two engines are compared). These are very
different concepts (if the SSDF method to chose the opponents has any concept;
it seems chaotic to me). IMO the CSS tests are much more on an equal basis.

It must raise doubts when the average opponent's strength is so different, like
it occured with the Ruffian 2 test recently, for the SSDF ratings. If they'd be
politicians, people would call that lack of instinct. Especially when you
consider that new strong engines are in the focus of the interest. That seems to
be a bit careless to me.

Btw. why didn't they combine the two Junior 8 ratings? Wasn't that discussed
too? Just another of these points...

Regards,
Mike Scheidl



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