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Subject: Re: The

Author: Detlef Pordzik

Date: 13:29:26 12/10/98

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On December 09, 1998 at 14:18:06, Marcus Kaestner wrote:

>>Moderators ?????
>
>>NOBODY is stupid here ! Why is it so difficult for you, to accept DIFFERENT
>>opinions ? Regarding your following statements, I have some problems with such
>>an intolerant point of view ......
>
>Do you be the referee here ? Do you be the watchman here, who have to call after
>the police??? I´ve accused nobody personally. If you feel spoken to you than
>it´s your problem.
>
>
>>Both factors are important. From my experience these tournaments are only
>>senseful in one aspect : you can meet a lot of friends there, share opinions
>>....You `ll never detect the "best" program in these events.
>
>I´ve never said that you can detect the strongest program in a seven round
>tournament, but you can get a good impression of the abilities of the several
>programs, and much more if you have two participants of the same program, even
>on several machines. And if you are the „great tournament player“ as you feel
>yourself  (I remember that since few days ago you wasn´t aware of  the changing
>in the permanent brain line between MCP7 and MCP8!!!! Very funny that such an
>expert doesn´t notice that) than you must have noticed that there are more
>senseful aspects. During these tournements, following each move of the programs,
>thinking yourself about each move your program want to play, you learn much more
>about the strong and weak points of your programs than collecting the points of
>hundred games in your home-autoplayer-sessions.
>
>>Brilliant. "Self-made-expert". Where did you earn your reputation ? Did you
>>receive it from your greengrocer ?
>
>Very funny. Fine sarcasm. You should change your job to an entertainer!
>
>>I have been the operator for MChess in Paderborn, Paris, Den Hague
>
>I know...
>
>>etc...following your arguments --> REAL TOURNAMENTS. I never see you there
>
>...but I´ve never seen you at the other tournaments, tournaments where you can
>win money, not only a little bit reputation. Or are only these tournaments real
>tournaments where you participate?? You seem to me a little bit arrogant.
>
>>What `s your problem ?????? I also can`t detect the big value of this
>>tournament. Let me tell you this : these tournaments are ONLY fun and good for
>>sharing the hobby with other people. I like this and some tournaments I`ll never
>>forget. The only thing what I dislike at these events are intolerant people full
>>of fanatism. It seems, that you believe to this sort of people.
>
>There is no problem, and there isn´t also a big value. But I don´t want me and
>my friends to be signed as little idiots. That´s all, and there is nothing to
>say about fanatism, that´s bullshit.
>
>>I hope, that you will stop these insults here. Nobody is stupid here. From my
>>point of view it`s not very intelligent, to attack people in this way, which
>>have different opinions.
>
>I´ve not attacked anyone, Mr Judge.
>
>>And you should pay attention to the fact, that we dislike such reactions here.
>>Please don`t forget : it`s only a hobby. No reason,to attack people in the way
>>you did. Your behaviour seems to me not very intelligent ......
>
>Do you be elected the spokesman here ????
>
>And because you give so much weight to the word "intelligence" I will give you a
>cite of a movie-sentence: "arrogance is a poor compensation for intelligence".
>
>And by the way, don´t be a mimosa!
>
>So long,
>Marcus


Spokesman ( gee - what a construction )
arrogance as poor compensation for xyz
a little arrogant
Mr. Judge
mimosa
" self made experts " - that's important - see below :

....all this in one singular letter.

I really wonder where the gents are sleeping, who've been elected to provide
this - at present. No Mr. TC in sight, eh ?

and then this :

>...but I´ve never seen you at the other tournaments, tournaments where you can
>win money, not only a little bit reputation. Or are only these tournaments real
>tournaments where you participate?? You seem to me a little bit arrogant.

Now, this really turns me on, man !
As you write " expert "  - I dunno how many times - these 3 lines abovce can
make believe without doubts, that if you don't SEE someone at REAL tournaments,
where you " can win money " ( Good Lord ) - it's clear that YOU MUST be there,
elsewise you couldn't be able to..... see.... a thing.

So, my good man - tell us - tell me - who are YOU ?
Which class do you play in, which board,
ELO ? ( approved by FIDE or ICCF )
tournaments won - which + where.

Then come back in the ring and name one of the eldest German testers " a little
arrogant " + whatsoever., won't you ?

ELVIS



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