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Subject: Re: Tao 5.6 vs Aristarch 4.41 (15m+10s) after 13 games (6,0-7,0) PGN

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:34:41 03/15/04

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On March 14, 2004 at 15:49:02, Bryan Hofmann wrote:

>On March 14, 2004 at 15:17:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On March 14, 2004 at 14:36:56, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
>>
>>>On March 14, 2004 at 13:07:44, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 14, 2004 at 12:56:49, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I expect Aristarch 4.41 to score better than that against Yin 5.6, since
>>>>ElChinito 3.25 and Aristarch 4.41 are almost equal in strength:
>>>>
>>>>Arena tournament
>>>>
>>>>Rank	Engine	Score	Yi	                EL                     S-B
>>>>1	ELChinito_325	11.5/18	· · · · · · · · 1=100010=111110=11. . .74.75
>>>>2	Yin56 	6.5/18	0=011101=000001=00	· · · · · · · · · . . .74.75
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I don't know what length you matches were, but Tao is really not much of a Blitz
>>>player, it's strenght is is longer time controls.
>>>
>>>
>>>Bryan
>>
>>I do not agree
>>I think that Tao is strong at all time controls.
>>
>>For Tao5.4's results in blitz in the nunn positions
>>see http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ratings/ratingsnunn2.htm
>>
>>It is clearly better than most programs in blitz and Tao5.6 performs even better
>>see http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/nunntog.htm
>>
>>Tao is probably better than movei at all time controls and movei is not a weak
>>blitz program and seems to be at the middle of the rating list.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I guess this is one time when I glad you do not agree. But, I have been beta
>testing Tao for Bas for about a month. I have run matches on FICS (TaoGizmo) and
>at home with different settings. What I have discovered is when the time control
>is below 10/0 to say 5/0 or lower Tao does not preform as well against the same
>engines that it is able to win against in longer time controls. For example, I
>tested Tao against Smarthink, in 60/0 games it was 8-2-0 for Tao, in short
>matches, 5/0 it was 5-3-2 Smarthink. I am aware of the links you provided above
>and Tao is outstanding in these positions, it just a different story in playing
>normal games.

ok
I looked at links of normal rating in Royal Blitz.
http://www.computerschachecke.de/

Tao is number 50 in the royal blitz when movei is only number 64.

If you do not include more than one version of the same program than Tao is
clearly better than number 50 and seems to be place 34 that I consider to be a
good result for a free engine.

1)Fritz8             2766
2)Hiarcs9            2756
3)Shredder8          2727
4)tiger15            2724
5)ruffian2           2677
6)The king3.23 milan 2650
7)Deep Junior7       2635
34)Tao5.6            2467
Movei                2375

Uri



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