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Subject: Re: Tough position for solvers

Author: Bas Hamstra

Date: 07:48:22 03/15/04

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On March 14, 2004 at 22:43:58, Dan Ellwein wrote:

>On March 14, 2004 at 21:09:04, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>
>>On March 14, 2004 at 21:07:45, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>
>>>On March 14, 2004 at 20:28:15, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>>
>>>>This copy & paste from Shredder 5 is soooo cool. This is a tough position from
>>>>BS2830. I am curious how other engines do here. Tao 5.4 used to solve this in 2
>>>>minutes but the latest version has a hard time here.
>>>>
>>>>[D] 2r1r3/p3bk1p/1pnqpppB/3n4/3P2Q1/PB3N2/1P3PPP/3RR1K1 w - -
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ciao!
>>>>
>>>>Bas.
>>>
>>>and what exactly is the best move?
>>
>>Rxe6!!
>
>Hi Bas
>
>CM9000 personality OFFSET finds Rxe6 in 5 secs and stays with it...
>
>P3/850 64M hash
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>----	----	----	----		----
>0:00	1/3	1.93	2644		1.Qe4 Na5 2.Ba2 Bf8 3.Bxd5 Qxd5
>					4.Bxf8 Kxf8
>0:00	1/4	1.79	6943		1.Qe4 f5 2.Qe2 Bf6 3.Ng5+ Bxg5
>					4.Bxg5
>0:00	1/4	1.92	7281		1.Qg3 Kg8 2.Qxd6 Bxd6 3.Bxd5 exd5
>					4.Rxe8+ Rxe8
>0:00	1/5	1.65	29950		1.Qg3 Qd7 2.Qh3 Na5 3.Bd2
>0:00	1/5	1.84	36215		1.Qh3 a6 2.Qg3 Kg8 3.Qxd6 Bxd6
>					4.Bxd5 exd5 5.Rxe8+ Rxe8
>0:01	1/6	1.83	151293		1.Qh3 Red8 2.Bd2 h5 3.Qg3 Qd7 4.Bf4
>0:02	1/6	1.90	165281		1.Bxd5 Qxd5 2.Qe4 Red8 3.Qxd5 exd5
>					4.Bf4 Kg8
>0:02	1/6	1.93	221579		1.Re2 Bf8 2.Bxd5 Bxh6 3.Qh3 Qxd5
>					4.Qxh6
>0:04	1/7	1.85	369484		1.Re2 Bf8 2.Bxd5 Qxd5 3.Bxf8 Kxf8
>					4.Rde1
>0:05	1/7	2.24	483638		1.Rxe6 Qxe6 2.Re1 Qd6 3.Bf4 f5
>					4.Bxd6 fxg4 5.Bxd5+ Kf8
>0:07	1/8	2.05	709374		1.Rxe6 Qxe6 2.Re1 Qd6 3.Bf4 f5
>					4.Bxd6 fxg4 5.Bxd5+ Kf8 6.Bf4
>0:16	1/9	2.02	1733154		1.Rxe6 Qxe6 2.Re1 Qd6 3.Bf4 f5
>					4.Bxd6 fxg4 5.Bxd5+ Kf6 6.Re6+
>					Kf5 7.Bxe7 Nxe7
>0:48	1/10	2.75	5426411		1.Rxe6 Qxe6 2.Re1 f5 3.Rxe6 Kxe6
>					4.Qf4 Bf6 5.g4 Red8 6.gxf5+ gxf5
>					7.Ng5+ Bxg5 8.Bxg5
>1:21	1/11	2.87	9570711		1.Rxe6 Qxe6 2.Re1 f5 3.Rxe6 Kxe6
>					4.Qf4 Bd6 5.Qd2 Bb8 6.Qd3 Na5 7.Bxd5+
>					Kxd5 8.Qb5+ Ke6
>2:57	1/12	2.98	21557079	1.Rxe6 Qxe6 2.Re1 f5 3.Rxe6 Kxe6
>					4.Qf4 Bd6 5.Qd2 Ne7 6.Qe3+ Kd7
>					7.Ne5+ Kc7 8.Qf3 Rcd8 9.Bg5 Bxe5
>					10.dxe5
>6:54	1/13	3.09	52179172	1.Rxe6 Qxe6 2.Re1 f5 3.Rxe6 Kxe6
>					4.Qf4 Bd6 5.Qd2 Na5 6.Ba2 Bb8 7.b4
>					Nb7 8.Ng5+ Kd6 9.Nxh7 Rc2
>19:22	2/14	3.12	145230827	1.Rxe6 Qxe6 2.Re1 f5 3.Rxe6 Kxe6
>					4.Qf4 Bd6 5.Qd2 Na5 6.Ba2 Bb8 7.b4
>					Nc6 8.b5 Ne7 9.Ng5+ Kd7 10.Nxh7
>
>Dan

This is interesting. Since I have no idea what OFFSET is (might be some exotic
personality with exaggerated king safety or so) I am also interested in how the
default personality does. And how other engines do.


Bas.














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