Author: Bryan Hofmann
Date: 09:18:16 03/15/04
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On March 15, 2004 at 10:34:41, Uri Blass wrote: >On March 14, 2004 at 15:49:02, Bryan Hofmann wrote: > >>On March 14, 2004 at 15:17:26, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On March 14, 2004 at 14:36:56, Bryan Hofmann wrote: >>> >>>>On March 14, 2004 at 13:07:44, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>> >>>>>On March 14, 2004 at 12:56:49, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>>> >>>>>I expect Aristarch 4.41 to score better than that against Yin 5.6, since >>>>>ElChinito 3.25 and Aristarch 4.41 are almost equal in strength: >>>>> >>>>>Arena tournament >>>>> >>>>>Rank Engine Score Yi EL S-B >>>>>1 ELChinito_325 11.5/18 · · · · · · · · 1=100010=111110=11. . .74.75 >>>>>2 Yin56 6.5/18 0=011101=000001=00 · · · · · · · · · . . .74.75 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>I don't know what length you matches were, but Tao is really not much of a Blitz >>>>player, it's strenght is is longer time controls. >>>> >>>> >>>>Bryan >>> >>>I do not agree >>>I think that Tao is strong at all time controls. >>> >>>For Tao5.4's results in blitz in the nunn positions >>>see http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ratings/ratingsnunn2.htm >>> >>>It is clearly better than most programs in blitz and Tao5.6 performs even better >>>see http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/tabellen/nunntog.htm >>> >>>Tao is probably better than movei at all time controls and movei is not a weak >>>blitz program and seems to be at the middle of the rating list. >>> >>>Uri >> >>I guess this is one time when I glad you do not agree. But, I have been beta >>testing Tao for Bas for about a month. I have run matches on FICS (TaoGizmo) and >>at home with different settings. What I have discovered is when the time control >>is below 10/0 to say 5/0 or lower Tao does not preform as well against the same >>engines that it is able to win against in longer time controls. For example, I >>tested Tao against Smarthink, in 60/0 games it was 8-2-0 for Tao, in short >>matches, 5/0 it was 5-3-2 Smarthink. I am aware of the links you provided above >>and Tao is outstanding in these positions, it just a different story in playing >>normal games. > >ok >I looked at links of normal rating in Royal Blitz. >http://www.computerschachecke.de/ > There was nothing here other then the opening page. >Tao is number 50 in the royal blitz when movei is only number 64. Everyone has a rating list and there is one thing they all have in common; none of them are the same. > >If you do not include more than one version of the same program than Tao is >clearly better than number 50 and seems to be place 34 that I consider to be a >good result for a free engine. > I agree Tao is a very good & strong free engine. The bottom line is my tests show different results as someone elses tests would show different results. Different hardware, time controls etc all lead to this. I have yet to find empirical stength data on chess engines anywhere. >1)Fritz8 2766 >2)Hiarcs9 2756 >3)Shredder8 2727 >4)tiger15 2724 >5)ruffian2 2677 >6)The king3.23 milan 2650 >7)Deep Junior7 2635 >34)Tao5.6 2467 >Movei 2375 > >Uri
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