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Subject: Re: This is the theme...

Author: Bas Hamstra

Date: 06:28:46 03/16/04

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On March 16, 2004 at 07:26:09, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 16, 2004 at 06:02:22, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>
>>After Rxe6 Qxe6 Re1 Qf5 Qxf5 gxf5 this is the position that should justify the
>>sac:
>>
>>[D] 2r1r3/p3bk1p/1pn2p1B/3n1p2/3P4/PB3N2/1P3PPP/4R1K1 w - - 0 4
>>
>>White has sacced the exchange but wins a knight back, plus white has an extra
>>pawn for it, being a freepawn, plus it has the bishoppair, plus better
>>pawnstructure.
>>
>>Anyway, Tao evaluates this as +1.00 for white or so. And it will not *ever* play
>>that sac because it evaluates the original position as slightly better, giving
>>about 1.30 or so for attacking chances in the original position.
>>
>>I don't think there is a big crush, just a good endgame, that's all. Other
>>opinions?
>
>Yes
>
>I think that the +1.30 for the original position is too optimistic.
>
>The endgame also is evaluated by movei as more than +1
>White has a pair of bishops in the position that you posted  and black has
>weaker pawn structure.
>White has a passed pawn that gives another bonus for white and white has also
>better mobility .
>
>Movei cannot find Rxe6 in a reasonable time but the problem is that the tactics
>is simply too deep for it to see it at tournament time control and it has not
>big king safety evaluation to see it by evaluation like another program that
>give positive score for white inspite of the fact that black has a rook for 2
>pawns.
>
>Uri

I think big king-safety penalties are not going to help here, on the contrary.
They can easily make the engine evaluate the original position as too
optimistic, like you said, and *not* choose a promising endgame.



Bas.





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