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Subject: Re: BS 2830 Problem #5 is wrong.

Author: Bas Hamstra

Date: 01:07:12 03/17/04

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On March 17, 2004 at 03:59:16, Joachim Rang wrote:

>On March 16, 2004 at 18:58:46, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>See this thread:
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?354948
>
>wait, wait...
>
>The continuation Rxf6 Qxf6 Re1 Qf5 Qxf5 gxf5 Bxd5 leads to a better endgame for
>white. If a GM tells me, that this endgame is won for white I believe him right
>away.
>
>If engines prefer Qh3 instead because they believe in the attacking chances of
>white, it is not convincing for me. King Safety is known to be a heuristic and
>even speculative evaluation feature, so a big value for Qh3 proves nothing.
>Where are the continuations which lead to a forced win for white after Qh3?
>
>Although Shredder 8 agrees with most programs and prefers Qh3 I don't think this
>is a prove that this move is better. If one looks at the PV there is no forced
>win in sight.
>
>The additional analysis which shows better defense of black after Rxe6 shows
>only, that Rxe6 is not a crushing attack but converts whites advantage in a won
>endgame.
>
>regards Joachim
>
>P.S.: Two concrete questions:
>1.) Is this position not won for white?
>
>[D] 2r1r3/p3bk1p/1pn2p1B/3n1p2/3P4/PB3N2/1P3PPP/4R1K1 w - - 0 4
>
>2.) How can white win after Qh3?

Interesting discussion and analysis guys. And I couldn't agree more with your
well put points, Joachim. I guess we need a real GM to settle this.


Bas.








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