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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 vs Junior 8 match complete. Shredder wins with 56% +41 ELO

Author: Anson T J

Date: 10:56:57 03/17/04

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On March 17, 2004 at 13:28:33, Bouddha wrote:

>On March 17, 2004 at 13:01:15, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On March 17, 2004 at 12:53:55, Bouddha wrote:
>>
>>>On March 17, 2004 at 12:35:41, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 17, 2004 at 11:43:12, Anson T J wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 17, 2004 at 10:40:30, Bigler David wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shredder 8 performed 82 ELO point better than Junior 8
>>>>>>Junior 8 performed 82 ELO point better than Shredder 7.04
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So Shredder 8 performed 164 ELO better than Shredder 7.04
>>>>>>
>>>>>>rgds
>>>>>
>>>>>I see, I thought when it was -41 / +41 that A was 41 weaker than b and b was 41
>>>>>stronger than a. Not that a was 82 weaker and b was 82 stronger. Perhaps you are
>>>>>correct. thx
>>>>
>>>>56% is less than 50 elo difference based on fast calculation.
>>>>
>>>>If the result is 56-44 then I get the following difference in rating
>>>>
>>>>(56-44)/100*400=48 so my calculation give 48 elo.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Sorry, but I do not understand why *400 ?????????
>>>Please explain
>>
>>
>>The simple formula that I know says 100% is 400 elo difference and 50% is 0 elo
>>difference.
>>
>>everything between is linear.
>>
>>result of 5-3 can be translated by the logic to
>>((5-3)/(5+3))*400=(2/8)*400=100 elo difference.
>>
>>result of 56-44 is translated to
>>((56-44)/(56+44))*400=(12/100)*400=48 elo difference
>>
>>result of 50-50 is translated to
>>((50-50)/(50+50))*400=(0/100)*400=0 elo difference.
>>
>>The formula is not correct because there can be difference of more than 400 elo
>>but when the difference in elo is not very big the formula is approximately
>>correct.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>Sorry but as far as I know, 100% is not 400 ELO and ELO vs % is not LINEAR !
>
>rgds

You aren't saying anything Uri hasn't said already. Uri said its _approximately_
correct when the the difference in percentage is small. The Junior interface
calculated 56% as +41 elo. Uri's formula gave +48 elo which I think is
approximately correct. Surely closer than the 82 elo someone above mentioned.





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