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Subject: Re: BS 2830 Problem #5 is wrong.

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:42:53 03/17/04

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On March 17, 2004 at 18:31:48, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On March 17, 2004 at 18:26:33, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>Dann, i hope you realize that i have seen you analyse this position. You drew
>the wrong conclusion, but you did effort to analyse it.
>
>I posted my findings spreaded over at about 6 different messages here.
>
>Uri then just without having invested the same time and knowing he is not
>capable of producing a higher level anyway than 1 certain program can give, is
>within 2 seconds answerring that. Note he is using crafty at 11 ply to proof his
>points.
>
>That's not nice.
>
>Now you protect the guy.
>
>This is incredible.
>
>I've been analysing this indepth of course why diep had problems in the past
>finding it, i can dream the position. You can awake me at night and say
>
>BS2830 position 1.
>
>I will say then Qxf3 gxf3 Rg6 and in the end Shredder a bishop withdrawing check
>solves it.
>
>BS2830 position 4.
>
>I will tell you this is the cool position where white captures at e6.
>
>I am very SURE, you can awake Frans Morsch at any moment too. He will have a
>question mark at his face, but if you ask him after the Rxe6 position at bs2830
>he will be able to tell you all about it.
>
>Uri however sees this position 1 second writes some nonsense here and you back
>him up.
>
>That's *really* incredible.
>
>I've put more time into a few of those positions combined than Uri in his entire
>program.

I am glad to hear refutation of the position.

Here is the pv for Qh3 as the choice:
[d]2r1r3/p3bk1p/1pnqpppB/3n4/3P2Q1/PB3N2/1P3PPP/3RR1K1 w - - pv Qh3 Rh8 Re2 Nd8
Nd2 Re8 Ne4 Qd7 Nc3 Nxc3 bxc3 b5 d5 Bxa3 dxe6+ Kg8 exd7+ Kh8;

What better moves for white harm this analysis? (As black, I get to be nemesis)

Here is the same thing for Rxe6:
2r1r3/p3bk1p/1pnqpppB/3n4/3P2Q1/PB3N2/1P3PPP/3RR1K1 w - - pv Rxe6 Qxe6 Re1 Qf5
Qxf5 gxf5 Bxd5+ Kg6 Bd2 Kg7 Bb4 b5 Rc1 Nb8 Rxc8 Rxc8 Nh4;

What better moves for white harm this analysis?

If these are good trajectories, then white is better after the queen move
instead of the rook capture.



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