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Subject: Re: CM9000 WCH - new World Champion settings found! - against who?

Author: Chessfun

Date: 23:16:07 03/17/04

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On March 18, 2004 at 02:03:15, Johan de Koning wrote:

>On March 17, 2004 at 12:35:08, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On March 17, 2004 at 06:58:15, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>On March 17, 2004 at 04:21:06, Graham Banks wrote:
>>>
>>>>As Kurt and other CM devotees are aware, I did extensive work on devising CM8000
>>>>settings, many of which are on Surak's website (my most successful being the
>>>>early CM Titan and the later CM Legend settings).
>>>>Inspired again by the experimentation of others in getting better results than
>>>>the default settings for CM9000, I will unveil CM9000 (The Judge) in my upcoming
>>>>Super Tournament II.
>>>>I'm looking forward to seeing how CM9000 performs with these new settings,
>>>>having been a little disappointed with the default settings.
>>>
>>>
>>>Sorry I am only kidding with CM 9000 WCH (World Champion) settings.
>>>Aren't you getting tired creating new settings which seem to be better than the
>>>original ones and/or the thousand different settings posted by other CM
>>>enthusiasts - and finally are NOT?
>>
>>It's really a question of how you decide if these custom settings are "better"
>>or not. Under the parameters of the tests (which typically involve a specific
>>time control on specific hardware), almost invariably the custom settings
>>perform better than the default. I don't think people would be posting their
>>results if they were not noticeably better than the default under the same
>>situation.
>>
>>But, most of the time, these new settings perform no better than (or sometimes
>>even worse) than the default settings on significantly different hardware with
>>significantly different time controls (tournament vs. blitz, for example). So
>>that is why most of these new settings come with caveats that make it clear that
>>the settings are only for certain situations.
>>
>>The default settings are designed to be as good as possible for the hugely
>>divergent hardware and gaming requirements of the hundreds of thousands of
>>Chessmaster users. Obviously, then, there must be some way to make minor (or
>>even significant) improvements if all you are concerned about is maximizing the
>>strength of the engine on YOUR computer and with YOUR favorite time control.
>
>Well spoken!
>BUT ...
>
>... I'd like to add that YOUR opponent is at least as important
>as YOUR computer x YOUR time control.
>
>People on this forum often talk about "strength" and "stronger"
>while they actually mean "performance against programs X and Y".
>It is definitely cool to score against X or Y. And let's face it,
>it is what's keeping the interest in computer chess alive today.
>BUT ...
>
>... The first goal of CM's engine is to be a reliable mentor and
>analysis tool. Speculative settings, no matter how well they are
>tuned against the latest X and Y, are simply off limits.
>
>... Johan

There are also those tournaments where the default personality wins!
http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=316859

Sarah.





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