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Subject: Re: What is a good eval worth? (Some surprising results)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:18:30 03/18/04

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On March 17, 2004 at 21:19:45, James Swafford wrote:

>Just what is a good eval worth?
>
>I ran Crafty on an AMD XP 2000+ (about 1.5 ghz) on ICC with a stripped
>down eval, then with it's regular eval to find out.  Check out the
>summaries below (the top one is for stripped eval, of course).
>
>By "stripped down", I mean that the eval counted only material, some
>very crude pawn heuristics (doubled pawn, passed pawn, isolated
>pawn), and used pawn and knight piece square tables.  That's it.
>
>I'm a bit surprised that the difference isn't a bit more; it's
>less than 200 points for blitz and bullet.  I strongly suspect
>the difference would've been much greater for standard games,
>but I have no data to support that.
>
>Anyone done similar tests?
>

If you don;t restrict ratings, this isn't as revealing.

IE against a 1800 player, tactics will rule the day, regardless of the
evaluation.  So stripping ot parts of the eval won't make a lot of difference.
But against a GM, it will do horribly with no eval...




>
> cnt |          avg          |          avg          | base_secs | inc_secs |
>description
>-----+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------+----------+-------------
> 271 | 2313.6531365313653137 | 1731.1623616236162362 |       120 |        1 | Br
>   2 | 2431.0000000000000000 | 1031.0000000000000000 |       300 |        3 | bu
> 673 | 2409.4680534918276374 | 1654.3239227340267459 |       300 |        3 | br
>(3 rows)
>
> cnt |          avg          |          avg          | base_secs | inc_secs |
>description
>-----+-----------------------+-----------------------+-----------+----------+-------------
> 246 | 2476.1422764227642276 | 1644.9471544715447154 |       120 |        1 | Br
>   2 | 2436.0000000000000000 | 1845.0000000000000000 |       120 |        1 | Bu
> 567 | 2583.1869488536155203 | 1653.4673721340388007 |       300 |        3 | br
>
>
>--
>James



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