Author: Mike S.
Date: 14:28:10 03/18/04
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On March 18, 2004 at 15:50:59, Mark Young wrote: >On March 18, 2004 at 10:19:38, Uri Blass wrote: > >>Kasparov did not win against the machines when smirin did. >>It is better to give the same winner to play another match so humans are going >>to try to win matches. > >GM Smirin did not play one program. He played a group of programs in 2 game >matches that they called one match. Some programs GM Smirin beat. Some programs >GM Smirin did not beat. And one program GM Smirin played he should of lost. That >program was Junior, if I remember correctly. Nevertheless, playing against a variety of opponents in one event is much more common in chess than a head-to-head match. So we could say, comp performance in competions with more praticipants is much more representative than 1-1 matches. - I guess though, the difference between programs is much smaller (from a GM'S viewpoint) than between human masters. For example, Smirin beat Shredder after the pattern of a game which van Wely won against Fritz (not just a rough pattern: the positions and moves were nearly identical!). The main chess and computerchess value of the big Man vs Machine matches is the publicity for that topics in mainstream media. The conditions for matches with big sponsors, publicity in non-chess media etc. are very much determined by PR needs obviously, than by considerations what would be most interesting for the insiders of chess and computerchess. For example, I think that a team match of 4 to 6 "mediocre" GM of ~2600 against the same number of programs on typical computer hardware (rather that high end multi-cpu hardware) would currently be more interesting than 4 games of "K" against a 4 or 8 cpu box. But a "K" match may be mentioned in the main news while the event with 2600 Elo GMs probably won't appear and even most computerchess fans will hardly have ever heard their names before. OTOH, let's not forget that there were participations of programs in human GM tournaments, although less often as desireable (and meanwhile, the human opposition in these is considered too weak (!?) sometimes, which illustrates the level of computerchess which has been achieved...). Regards, M.Scheidl
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