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Subject: Re: reason was: Java support missing (or malfunctioning?)

Author: Mridul Muralidharan

Date: 14:24:08 03/20/04

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On March 20, 2004 at 12:19:23, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On March 20, 2004 at 04:36:31, Mike S. wrote:
>
>>On March 20, 2004 at 01:53:31, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On March 20, 2004 at 01:38:38, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>(...)
>>
>>>>     "The server tried to set an illegal cookie. The combination of
>>>>     the server's hostname and the domain attribute for this cookie is not
>>>>     acceptable, and the cookie has therefore been rejected. You might want to
>>>>     ask the site's Webmaster to set legal cookies."
>>>>
>>>>     No idea what's wrong with this site as I have the browser set to
>>>>     "cookies enabled".
>>
>>Nothing, except that it has a code monster for the navigation where a few simple
>>links would be sufficient. That menu code requires a *Java* runtime software on
>>the visitor's computer (not just javascript obviously). The error message above
>>must come from wrong diagnosis, or isn't related to the access problem itself. I
>>could always access these pages and I have cookies *disabled* in MSIE.
>>
>>The Java runtime software is not included in WinXP anymore (AFAIK since SP1a),
>>which means that people with newer Windows XP installations won't be able to use
>>that menu when they don't have installed a Java support themselves additionally
>>(like I did as mentioned in the other posting).
>>
>>(I discoverd this Java issue recently when using XP for the first time, and i.e.
>>the MyChessViewer which requires the same software, didn't run and I didn't find
>>the Java runtime among the installable Windows components...)
>>
>>mfg.
>>Michael
>
>
>
>Microsoft has removed Java support from recent versions of Windows with
>-probably- the idea to hurt Sun, as Java is definitely a competitor to their
>.NET stuff.
>
>There has been a lot of buzz around this a few months ago. A judge was about to
>order Microsoft to put Java back in Windows, but it has not happened yet.
>
>In the IT area, a delay of a few weeks is enough to change completely the
>landscape and to put companies out of business. Decisions of "Justice" take
>several years to come. Microsoft knows this and knows that they can act
>illegally: by the time the ruling against them arrives, all they have to pay for
>is the coffin of their dead competitor.
>
>Ordinary people like you and me have a naive view of ethics: I would not kill
>anybody because it's a bad thing to do. Some "superiorly intelligent" people
>have another way of looking at this: they simply ask themselves how much it will
>cost them to murder somebody, and how much they will gain from the murder.
>
>But hey, everything I'm talking about here is naturally done in the interest of
>"innovation" and in the deepest interest of the consumer.
>
>I'm soooooo glad somebody out there is taking care of me and of the stuff I'm
>allowed to run on my computer.
>
>
>
>    Christophe

  Also add the fact that the previous lawsuit between Sun and Microsoft on M$
trying to violate the Java license and trying to make proprietory extensions to
java which were against the spirit of java.
  Took some time to settle , and losing which , M$ decided to "stop actively
supporting" java - you wont see any active development on visual java , etc from
m$ after that !
  Also , compare C# and .net to java.
The similarities are so much that - if I had tried something similar in college
, I would have got a zero for plagarism !

Best Regards,
Mridul



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