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Subject: Re: Very Easy Why Some People Hate Chessmaster

Author: Dan Kiski

Date: 05:25:45 12/11/98

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On December 11, 1998 at 07:31:55, Micheal Cummings wrote:

>It is really very easy.
>
>Lets just say that you buy the new Fritz 5.32 or any new program for that
>matter, and you spend three to fours times as much on that program, than if you
>bought CM6K
>
>Fine that it has good database and all the bells and whistles you want, that
>CM6K does not have.
>But deep down when you use it to play chess and analyse games, you will think
>from all that you read on CCC about CM6K being the strong and maybe the
>strongest, you will think to yourself, well this is great, I have all the best
>features I want in a program, but I do not have the best engine to go along with
>it.That is sitting in a cheap CM6K program. And those people are going to hate
>that.
>
>They want to spend money and will want to have the best. They want the best
>features and the best engine to go along with that. Not have some cheap program
>with less features being stronger than their program. Especially if in the past
>that program was considered a Joke among the other programs and people.
>
The cm5k was also among the strongest programs, I for one never considered it a
joke.

>I want a strong and the best engine. I really doubt that the serious player
>would use all database functions in everyone of the many programs they have.
>
>It all comes down to you cannot stand what has been a joke of a program in the
>past to be maybe better in playing strength than your current programs you have
>and spent way more money on.
>
>You can talk about all the Database and other functions that make a chess
>programs great.
>But lets face it, most people buy a certain chess program because they want to
>have the strongest engine, so they can analyse and play against themselves and
>other computers to win. We all want to win, that is the point of chess.
>And so you can have one better over someone else because you have a stronger
>program than what they do and hopefully see something their program cannot see
>in analysis because their engine is weaker..
>
>Simply put, if you think you have the best and you do not, then you have to
>defend yourself in order to not look like a fool in front of anyone else.
>
>It a matter of pride in a program you tust to help you improve your chess. And
>you want the best for that.
>
>And if CM6K is the best, well that will not sit well with some people who think
>their program is the best, and thus will make out that CM6K is rubbish.
>
>As I said, people can rubbish CM6K all they want and try and make out because it
>is lacking with some features it does not deserve to be among the strong
>programs, And I think that is what some people on here have been doing.

It seems to me that most people here own more than one program and indeed most
in fact own chessmaster 6000, maybe we should have a poll on who owns what to
see what type of percentage of each program is owned. I think the one reason
people doubt the cm6k is it's lack of ratings by established rating
organizations SS (SSDF), however we all know that if you play it against any
program it will win it's fair share.

In general I think that the top 10 in the SSDF are pretty much equal and throw
in the cm6k to that lot and you have programs that are all about the same in
terms of engine strength.

Personally although a fan of the cm6k based on it's strength against other
programs, I still prefer Fritz more than any other program I own.

Dan Kiski





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