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Subject: Re: Attack Table Question

Author: Daniel Shawul

Date: 04:49:17 03/22/04

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On March 22, 2004 at 07:06:53, Tord Romstad wrote:

>On March 22, 2004 at 03:40:57, Daniel Shawul wrote:
>
>>Hello
>>
>>I have decided to use attack tables. I just did
>>a rough implementation of it at the beginning of the eval
>>according to Ed's paper. The problem is the thing dropped the nodecount
>>by almost 40% .  Initial position nodecount was 800000 and now it is 500000.
>>Do incremental move attack tables help? And how do i update the table? It seems
>>very difficult to update a sliding move and other special cases.
>
>Hello Daniel,
>
>Yes, attack tables tend to be expensive.  I calculate them from scratch at
>every node, and my impression is that most others (including Ed) does the
>same.  Perhaps it would be possible to do it faster by some sort of
>incremental updating, but I am fairly sure it would still slow you down a lot.
>
>You simply have to decide whether it is worth the cost.
>
>Tord

Hi Tord

I am going to use them whatever the cost. But I am intending to do it only at
quiescence nodes [not at internal nodes]. If I use an incremental one I  can
also use it for internal nodes too.I am not sure how much i save by doing this
but like you said a minumum of 20% decrease seems inevitable.
I guess you are using the table at internal nodes for move ordering.My see is a
very costy operation. But with this attack table i hope it is for granted?

Good luck with Gothmog. [ofcourse it doesn't need my luck,it's already a world
beater!!]
daniel




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