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Subject: Re: Sean Evans Re-instated

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:05:26 12/11/98

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On December 11, 1998 at 07:09:30, Peter Herttrich wrote:

>On December 11, 1998 at 04:53:18, Lawrence S. Tamarkin wrote:
>
>>On December 11, 1998 at 04:06:54, Peter Herttrich wrote:
>>
>>>On December 10, 1998 at 23:40:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 10, 1998 at 22:52:41, SEAN EVANS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 10, 1998 at 20:57:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 09, 1998 at 11:03:50, Peter Klausler wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm unsubscribing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't.. that's exactly what he wants.  And he gets his way if you walk
>>>>>>away...
>>>>>
>>>>>Moderation Please....
>>>>>
>>>>>How does Dr. Hyatt presume to *know* what I want...  Where are his *facts* to
>>>>>backup his *attack* on me.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you for your time and consideration,
>>>>>
>>>>>Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>Sean Evans
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There is no attack.  There is a request for a member to not leave, just because
>>>>you have been let out of your box for a bit.  All you want to do is agitate,
>>>>over and over.   One only has to read rec.games.chess.computer to see this form
>>>>of nonsense.  I only hope folks are smart enough to not run and hide when such
>>>>nonsense creeps into CCC from time to time.  Give the moderators a chance, they
>>>>can curb it...
>>>
>>>I have leaved RGCC completely for this reason.
>>>Now I have to see, that this morons are also here in CCC.
>>>I will see till end of the year, if the community of CCC is able
>>>to throw out this yunk.
>>>I thought, CCC was founded to get rid of this.
>>>Now I see no big difference to RGCC.
>>>When will be the rest of the idiot-collection of RGCC
>>>also here?
>>
>>Why don't you give him (or any others you have a grudge with), a chance. (Or
>>perhaps another chance).  Just because this is a moderated newsgroup, does not
>>mean it has to be an ExClusionary group, (Its sad enough that no women, or very
>>few women will have anything to do with us here:), or that some one who is out
>>can not come back, having agreed to its charter.
>>
>>I realize that many people have long memories & (perhaps), justified hurts
>>caused by this or that irrational post. (and I am not saying who of many has
>>posted incoherently).  But it does not do well to dwell in the past, and to make
>>the statement, 'this person is back, so I'm leaving', is a rigid & inflamatory
>>thing to write.
>>
>>Yes, I know that those who forget the past, are condemmed to repeat it, but I
>>also believe that we live in a very forgiving culture, and that people can
>>moderate their own behaviors, given the choice, but not lectured too about why
>>they should take it.  By the way, I am not one of those, 'lets just get along',
>>type people.  I think I'm a 'Come on everybody, lighten up! type of person.   I
>>believe in fair play, and that everyone deserves to make thier point(s), no
>>matter how wrong, I or others think they are.  Freedom of speech is also about
>>tolerance, and the willingness (like Bob Hyatt does), to exert the energy to
>>refute Illogic with Logic and Facts.
>>
>>mrslug - the inkompetent chess software addict!
>
>This answer also to Bruce.
>
>If someone acts like a moron, i call him so.
>You say: This is not an ExClusionary Club. I don't think so.
>This club is for people, which have to say something abt
>computerchess. The namend guy had nothing to say (see RGCC)
>abt this, only agitation, insults, moronics. Why should
>i wish to see him here?
>Give him chances? He had time enough to take his chance in RGCC.
>Why should i give him here a chance?
>
>When I live in a street with moron-neigbourhood and I have no
>chance to get rid of them, I move away. When they follow,
>then the point is reached, where i begin to defend my infrastructure.
>
>Last: Take a look at RGCC and the last posts of evans and rethink,
>if you really want to see him here.
>
>Ofcourse IMHO.
>One Question: How abt an opinionpoll abt this problem?
>The community should say, if one should be a member or not.
>
>Peter

Hi Peter...

 the point here has to be to "tolerate the very few, so you can converse with
the many..."  IE I'm willing to tolerate a couple of posters that do little
other than agitate, in order to communicate with the many that actually want to
talk about computer chess issues.

IE someone farts in an elevator... I don't get off, I just hold my nose..  :)




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