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Subject: Re: Interchess(C) On FICS !!

Author: Bryan Hofmann

Date: 03:57:04 03/23/04

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On March 22, 2004 at 17:49:45, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On March 22, 2004 at 14:02:53, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>
>>On March 22, 2004 at 09:43:14, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>>
>>>On March 22, 2004 at 07:57:11, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 22, 2004 at 07:11:41, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 22, 2004 at 06:19:51, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On March 21, 2004 at 17:56:54, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On March 21, 2004 at 16:02:01, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>DeepNightmare is Shredder with the Sjeng book in ChessPartner or when using
>>>>>>>Arena he is using the gm2600+ book.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Have a look at this as it is worth a laugh;
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/profile.html?buijs@few.vu.nl
>>>>>
>>>>>You're mixing names up. This is a genuine selfwritten engine.
>>>>>
>>>>>Tony
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Some strange simularities here;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://chessprogramming.org/cccsearch/ccc.php?art_id=315168
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Finger of DeepNightmare(C):
>>>>Last disconnected: Sun Mar 21, 10:57 PST 2004
>>>>          rating     RD      win    loss    draw   total   best
>>>>Blitz      2598     98.4     431     174     131     736   2590 (11-Oct-2001)
>>>>Standard   2465    165.7      34      16      11      61   2301 (14-Jan-2001)
>>>>Lightning  2584    169.2      92      45      34     171   2699 (21-May-2002)
>>>> 1: This is a computer account: Nightmare7@Arena 1.03
>>>> 2: Running on a dual AMD MP-2600+, 1 Gb. RAM.
>>>> 3: Openingbook build from 2600+ rated GM games.
>>>> 4: Nalimov 3, 4, and 5 piece endgame databases.
>>>> 5: The evaluation function is experimental and changes from time to time.
>>>> 6: Owner: JoostB
>>>
>>>
>>>Waste no words because you got your answer. As said above, Nightmare is a
>>>completely original program written by Joost Buijs.  Joost posts here quite
>>>often, so if you have qualms about Nightmare, you might wish to consult him.
>>>
>>>Djordje
>>
>>That may be true, however, he was not using "Nightmare7" when he played me 2
>>days ago. We were even talking about together, he was using Shredder 7.04 and I
>>was using Shredder 8. Said he was working on the settings for a year or
>>something like that. Apparently if he was using an original engine he decided to
>>stop using it in favor of a modified commercial engine.
>>
>>I have no problem with that of course, but how much effort does it take to type,
>>"set 1 Shredder 7.04 - Custom settings - xxx mb of hash"??
>
>
>
>Yes you are right about that particular occurrence.  However, people should know
>that Nightmare has been around for quite a while as an original program by
>Buijs.  I personally have known about it, and read about it, for at least 15
>years!  That's all.
>
>Still, I agree that the line should have been changed for other FICS people to
>see what they were playing.
>
>Djordje


Line 1 of the finger file is set automatically by Arena with the name that is
entered in the engine management section on the general tab. This is done when
the ICS connection is established and after every game played. In this case that
would mean the name Nightmare7 was entered and the command line was pointed to
the Shredder executable. The whole point of this thread was about the deception
on FICS and not about the existence of the program Nightmare. I do not know what
else you would call this.




>
>BTW, I run Ruffian (different versions) on FICS, nick is PopperX.  Perhaps you
>might wish to play me -- I am using a P4 @ 3 Ghz currently.



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