Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 12:42:18 03/24/04
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On March 24, 2004 at 14:05:01, Peter Berger wrote:
>On March 24, 2004 at 13:53:49, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On March 24, 2004 at 13:49:02, Larry Scott wrote:
>>
>>>On March 24, 2004 at 13:34:34, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is is great to be able to have strong Free programs of better playing quality
>>>>than commercial were 2 yeras ago. Just to mention a few of them El Chinito 3.25
>>>>Delfi 4.4, Thinker 4.5e and Gothmog 0.4.7 and of course Ruffian 1.0.1.
>>>>
>>>>PS: Does Fritz6 still has a chance against any of these in longer time control
>>>>>60 minutes?
>>>>
>>>>Jorge
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Dude you're Drunk! Fritz6 would slaughter these engines hands down!.
>>
>>It is very easy to say it, than to prove it.
>>
>>Jorge
>
>Well, look at SSDF for example, currently Fritz 6 is still rated equally to
>Crafty or Ruffian 2 on an Athlon 1200, when running on a K6-450, so it has good
>chances in a match even with these conditions.
>
>From your candidate list Ruffian 1.01 is the only one that might compete
>successfully with Fritz 6 IMHO, but you never know.
>
>Look at the full list that also has all the older engines at
>http://w1.859.telia.com/~u85924109/ssdf/rlwww041.txt.
>
>Peter
You might be coreect to say that Ruffian 1.0.1 might be the only one that has a
chance, but I will stop this current match between Yace Paderborn vs Gothmog and
I will test Gothmog versus Fritz 6 at G/60 just to get an idea :-)
[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "S0025128408"]
[Date "2004.03.24"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Gothmog"]
[Black "Yace Paderborn"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A28"]
[Opening "English"]
[Time "12:08:59"]
[Variation "Four Knights, Romanishin Variation"]
[TimeControl "3600"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "106"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
{C:\Program Files\Arena\Books\book.pgn 29/1120 (Player-Player, SedatChess,
2003.11.25, ½-½)} 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.e3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bb4 5.Nd5 Ba5 6.Qa4 e4 7.Ng1
O-O 8.b4
Bb6 9.Nxb6 cxb6 10.Bb2 Qe7 11.b5 {-0.04/13 95} Ne5 {-0.07/11 110} 12.f4 {0.03/13
75} Ng6 {-0.10/12 156} 13.Ne2 {0.00/13 156} Nh4 {0.19/11 133} 14.h3 {0.03/12 80}
d6
{0.25/11 74} 15.Nd4 {-0.04/12 169} Nh5 {0.24/11 53} 16.Kf2 {0.03/13 94} Bd7
{0.33/11 76}
17.g4 {0.21/13 113} Nf6 {0.32/11 50} 18.Qb3 {0.21/12 76} Rfc8 {0.35/10 66}
19.Rg1
{0.18/12 123} a5 {0.35/10 70} 20.g5 {0.31/12 127} Ne8 {-0.01/11 68} 21.d3
{0.34/11 60}
exd3 {0.00/10 63} 22.Qxd3 {0.43/11 53} Rc5 {-0.13/10 66} 23.Nb3 {0.62/12 63} Rc7
{-0.24/10 64} 24.Nd2 {0.59/11 103} d5 {0.06/10 57} 25.cxd5 {0.18/12 127} Rac8
{0.10/9 62}
26.Be5 {0.62/11 66} R7c2 {0.30/10 60} 27.Be2 {0.40/11 45} Ng6 {0.36/10 59} 28.d6
{0.18/12 101} Qd8 {0.12/10 57} 29.a4 {0.37/11 38} Bxh3 {0.10/9 33} 30.Rad1
{0.40/11 69}
R8c5 {0.22/9 47} 31.Qe4 {0.81/11 48} Be6 {0.28/9 44} 32.Bd3 {0.53/11 42} Bd5
{-0.42/10 95} 33.Qd4 {1.12/13 37} Ra2 {-0.75/10 85} 34.Bb1 {1.09/12 66} Ra3
{-0.62/10 48}
35.Ne4 {1.50/12 48} Bxe4 {-0.65/9 27} 36.Qxe4 {1.50/11 34} Qd7 {-0.75/9 45}
37.Rgh1
{1.40/12 74} Kh8 {-1.12/8 28} 38.Rh2 {2.18/10 59} Kg8 {-2.71/10 149} 39.Rdh1
{2.40/10
30} Nxd6 {-1.43/9 22} 40.Qd4 {1.65/12 73} Ra2+ {-1.17/10 87} 41.Bxa2 {1.65/12
38}
Nxe5 {-1.51/10 38} 42.fxe5 {1.65/11 42} Qf5+ {-1.65/10 23} 43.Ke2 {2.21/12 34}
Rc2+
{-1.46/10 22} 44.Kd1 {2.25/13 38} Rxa2 {-2.60/12 118} 45.Rxa2 {2.15/12 26} Qb1+
{-2.61/11
33} 46.Ke2 {2.15/13 41} Qxa2+ {-2.20/11 25} 47.Kf3 {2.18/13 25} Ne8 {-3.13/12
42}
48.Qd7 {2.15/12 44} Qe6 {-3.54/12 79} 49.Qxe6 {5.18/18 26} fxe6 {-6.20/18 72}
50.Rd1
{5.68/18 36} Kf8 {-7.60/17 134} 51.Rd7 {6.21/18 42} Kg8 {-8.07/15 17} 52.Rxb7
{7.31/16
33} Kf8 {-8.84/15 20} 53.Rxb6 {8.21/15 17} {1-0 Arena Adjudication} 1-0
[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "S0025128408"]
[Date "2004.03.24"]
[Round "2"]
[White "Yace Paderborn"]
[Black "Gothmog"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A28"]
[Opening "English"]
[Time "14:11:44"]
[Variation "Four Knights, Romanishin Variation"]
[TimeControl "3600"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "58"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
{C:\Program Files\Arena\Books\book.pgn 29/1120 (Player-Player, SedatChess,
2003.11.25, ½-½)} 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.e3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bb4 5.Nd5 Ba5 6.Qa4 e4 7.Ng1
O-O 8.b4
Bb6 9.Nxb6 cxb6 10.Bb2 Qe7 11.b5 {0.07/12 166} Ne5 {-0.13/14 154} 12.f4
{-0.06/12
154} Ng6 {0.06/13 70} 13.Bd4 {0.10/11 131} d5 {0.09/13 123} 14.Bxb6 {0.09/10 70}
axb6 {0.15/12 89} 15.Qxa8 {1.13/11 92} d4 {0.18/12 70} 16.Rb1 {0.48/11 70} dxe3
{1.25/12 77} 17.dxe3 {0.15/11 72} Ng4 {1.43/13 132} 18.Qa4 {-0.12/11 241} Qc5
{1.75/13
97} 19.Qb3 {-0.66/11 47} Nxf4 {1.96/13 118} 20.Rb2 {-0.81/11 57} Nxe3 {2.03/13
85}
21.g3 {-0.94/10 70} Ne6 {2.12/12 57} 22.Be2 {-1.51/11 119} Qd4 {3.53/13 103}
23.Qb4
{-2.23/10 52} Nc5 {4.31/12 81} 24.Rd2 {-4.03/10 53} Nd3+ {6.18/11 58} 25.Bxd3
{-5.86/12
274} exd3 {6.68/11 68} 26.Qe7 {-5.89/11 113} Be6 {9.43/11 90} 27.h3 {-8.07/10
226}
Nxc4 {9.50/10 44} 28.Ne2 {-11.24/11 145} Qe4 {12.06/12 84} 29.Rh2 {-11.24/10 28}
{0-1 Arena Adjudication} 0-1
[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "S0025128408"]
[Date "2004.03.24"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Gothmog"]
[Black "Yace Paderborn"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "D03/12"]
[Opening "Torre Attack (Tartakower Variation)"]
[Time "15:15:31"]
[TimeControl "3600"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "121"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
{C:\Program Files\Arena\Books\book.pgn 695/1120 (Player-Player, SedatChess,
2003.11.26, ½-½)} 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Bg5 d5 4.e3 Ne4 5.Bh4 Bg7 6.Nbd2 c5 7.c3
cxd4 8.cxd4
Nc6 9.Bb5 Qb6 10.Qb3 {0.34/13 149} O-O {-0.07/10 97} 11.Bxc6 {0.18/12 83} bxc6
{0.06/12 143} 12.Bxe7 {0.00/14 140} Re8 {0.06/11 134} 13.Ba3 {0.21/13 94} Nxd2
{-0.01/11
112} 14.Kxd2 {0.25/13 65} Qa6 {-0.03/11 93} 15.Qd3 {0.28/13 104} Qb6 {-0.10/11
75}
16.Ke1 {0.37/12 60} Rb8 {0.08/10 40} 17.Rd1 {0.46/13 120} Bf6 {0.08/10 72}
18.Qc3
{0.53/12 71} Bg4 {0.05/10 57} 19.Rd2 {0.56/13 141} Qc7 {0.04/10 69} 20.Ng1
{0.56/12 145}
Bf5 {0.07/9 50} 21.Ne2 {0.59/12 89} Bh4 {-0.08/10 66} 22.Ng3 {0.75/13 103} Bd7
{-0.20/10 64} 23.Bc5 {0.81/11 50} a5 {-0.18/10 48} 24.Qa3 {0.87/13 127} Rb5
{-0.13/10 52}
25.Bd6 {0.84/12 102} Qb7 {-0.10/10 34} 26.Ne2 {0.90/11 46} Qa6 {-0.11/10 59}
27.g3
{0.84/12 47} Bd8 {-0.17/11 58} 28.f3 {0.87/12 88} Bg5 {-0.18/10 56} 29.Nf4
{0.90/12 47}
Qb7 {-0.30/10 55} 30.h4 {1.18/12 55} Bh6 {-0.29/10 48} 31.Kf2 {1.18/12 61} Bf5
{-0.40/10 52} 32.g4 {1.43/14 80} Bc8 {-0.48/10 51} 33.g5 {1.46/13 65} Bg7
{-0.46/11 49}
34.h5 {1.56/13 58} Qd7 {-0.51/10 45} 35.hxg6 {0.00/12 116} fxg6 {-0.47/10 33}
36.Nd3
{1.46/11 47} Qd8 {-0.62/10 46} 37.Bf4 {1.37/12 51} Bf5 {-0.65/10 45} 38.b3
{1.43/11 33}
Bf8 {-0.65/10 44} 39.Qc1 {1.40/13 28} Re6 {-0.65/9 27} 40.Qg1 {1.43/11 41} Re8
{-0.68/9 31} 41.Be5 {1.50/11 34} a4 {-0.35/9 41} 42.Rxh7 {2.18/10 23} Rxe5
{0.00/10 26}
43.Qh2 {0.00/11 84} Re8 {0.00/10 40} 44.Rh8+ {1.90/9 48} Kf7 {-0.06/10 38}
45.Qh7+
{1.59/9 34} Ke6 {0.24/10 35} 46.Ne5 {1.46/8 20} Qe7 {-1.35/9 33} 47.Qg8+ {1.15/9
43}
Kd6 {-0.26/9 18} 48.Rh7 {1.28/8 17} Qe6 {0.15/10 36} 49.Rf7 {2.59/10 20} axb3
{0.13/10 111} 50.Qh8 {1.93/9 40} b2 {1.08/10 131} 51.Ra7 {0.53/9 21} Bh6
{-1.61/10 145}
52.Qxh6 {4.87/9 14} Qe7 {-2.52/10 127} 53.Rxe7 {2.12/9 13} Rxe7 {-2.57/10 22}
54.Rd1
{3.50/11 35} b1=Q {-2.97/10 14} 55.Rxb1 {4.40/12 15} Rxb1 {-4.33/11 13} 56.Qf8
{5.31/12
25} Rb2+ {-5.05/10 11} 57.Kg3 {5.78/13 24} Rb5 {-5.66/10 36} 58.Qf6+ {6.34/11
21}
Be6 {-6.04/12 14} 59.Nxg6 {6.62/11 16} Rf7 {-6.08/12 19} 60.Qd8+ {7.37/10 15}
Rd7
{-6.26/12 19} {1-0 Arena Adjudication} 1-0
[Event "Arena tournament"]
[Site "S0025128408"]
[Date "2004.03.24"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Yace Paderborn"]
[Black "Gothmog"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "D03/12"]
[Opening "Torre Attack (Tartakower Variation)"]
[Time "16:55:42"]
[TimeControl "3600"]
[Termination "adjudication"]
[PlyCount "100"]
[WhiteType "program"]
[BlackType "program"]
{C:\Program Files\Arena\Books\book.pgn 695/1120 (Player-Player, SedatChess,
2003.11.26, ½-½)} 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Bg5 d5 4.e3 Ne4 5.Bh4 Bg7 6.Nbd2 c5 7.c3
cxd4 8.cxd4
Nc6 9.Bb5 Qb6 10.Qb3 {0.07/11 179} O-O {-0.25/12 81} 11.Bxc6 {-0.04/11 153} bxc6
{-0.13/14 104} 12.Bxe7 {-0.11/11 74} Re8 {-0.19/14 75} 13.Ba3 {-0.10/11 111} Qa5
{-0.22/13 118} 14.Qb4 {0.19/11 64} Qa6 {-0.29/14 124} 15.Nxe4 {0.26/11 69} dxe4
{-0.44/13
125} 16.Nd2 {0.31/11 73} Be6 {-0.44/13 108} 17.Qc3 {0.55/10 71} Bd5 {-0.38/12
67}
18.h4 {0.70/11 37} h5 {-0.41/13 136} 19.Bd6 {0.69/11 52} Red8 {-0.41/12 66}
20.Bc5
{0.65/12 67} Qc8 {-0.41/12 61} 21.Rc1 {0.73/11 64} Qg4 {-0.22/12 50} 22.g3
{0.64/11 40}
Rd7 {-0.07/13 107} 23.Qa5 {0.70/11 63} Kh7 {-0.29/13 154} 24.Qa6 {0.76/11 61}
Kg8
{-0.22/12 48} 25.Nc4 {0.80/10 30} Kh7 {-0.29/12 134} 26.b3 {0.88/10 59} Rad8
{-0.25/11
49} 27.Rc2 {0.95/10 39} Kg8 {-0.25/11 45} 28.Rc3 {0.87/10 57} Qf3 {-0.22/12 65}
29.O-O {1.03/11 40} Qg4 {-0.16/12 100} 30.Rfc1 {1.11/10 45} g5 {0.31/13 81}
31.hxg5
{0.97/10 38} h4 {0.34/12 91} 32.Na5 {0.96/9 52} hxg3 {0.37/11 88} 33.fxg3
{0.38/8 63}
Qxg3+ {0.96/9 33} 34.Kf1 {0.00/10 29} Be6 {4.15/10 59} 35.Nxc6 {0.00/9 31} Bh3+
{4.21/9 64} 36.Ke2 Bg4+ {3.68/10 66} 37.Kf1 {0.00/9 48} Re8 {3.37/9 33} 38.R1c2
{-0.37/8 75} Rd5 {4.62/9 41} 39.Rf2 {-4.07/10 106} Qh3+ {5.59/10 39} 40.Ke1
{-2.40/10
21} Rxc5 {4.96/11 47} 41.Rxc5 {-3.18/10 88} Qxe3+ {5.18/11 53} 42.Re2 {-3.18/9
39}
Qg1+ {5.59/11 49} 43.Kd2 Bxd4 {5.34/10 32} 44.Rd5 {-4.15/10 118} Bb2 {5.28/9 24}
45.Ne7+ {-3.49/9 21} Kf8 {6.40/10 38} 46.Qh6+ {-3.49/9 29} Bg7 {6.87/10 28}
47.Qd6
{-5.18/10 147} e3+ {6.96/9 20} 48.Kc2 {-6.71/10 97} Bxe2 {7.00/10 62} 49.Nc6+
{-6.87/9
97} Kg8 {8.31/9 33} 50.Ne7+ {-8.39/9 110} {0-1 Arena Adjudication} 0-1
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