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Subject: Re: GUI visual Preference

Author: Matt Thomas

Date: 22:36:44 03/24/04

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On March 23, 2004 at 23:33:13, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On March 23, 2004 at 07:18:45, Joshua Shriver wrote:
>
>>Anyone here have a preference when it comes to GUI's and having a 2d and 3d
>>board?
>>
>>Reason I ask, is recently I played chess on a real board for the first time in
>>about 5 years. Was kind amused by the fact that seeing the board in 3d kinda
>>threw my game. I'm so use to running xboard with a 2d board..
>>
>>Anyone else experience this kind of feeling?
>
>I completely understand how you feel. I have played on the internet for years,
>and I'm not great, but I'm decent. I tried playing at an OTB tournament once and
>I did horrible. I wasn't used to having to write my own moves down or hit the
>clock, and I felt like I had never played chess before. I couldn't "see" any
>tactics at all.
>
>The first game I lost to a fools mate to a player rated in the 800s. The next
>game I had an easy win, and I fell into a stalemate trap set by a 600 player. I
>managed to win one game because the guy hung his rook. The last game I hung my
>bishop and lost quickly.
>
>OTB is a very different experience when you are used to playing on the net
>looking at a 2D board. I could probably get used to playing OTB, but I haven't
>yet found the motivation to play consistently enough to endure and overcome the
>beating I'd take from 800 and 600 players who are used to setting their cheapo
>traps.
>
>Plus it is weird when the kid's dad is standing over his shoulder the entire
>game.

There is a definite difference in my play OTB compared to a 2D pixelized board.
But for me it is the opposite - my OTB is much better.  3D on the computer is
just not quite the ticket for me.  I really like the way 3D looks onscreen but
it isn't as clear as 2D when I am trying to visualize moves.  Its strange how a
real-life 3D wooden board is easier for me to see moves on - that would almost
seem to be a contradiction, but I guess nothing beats the real life experience.

You are lucky you have somewhere to play some real people.  I have a hard time
trying to get a live person to play and so ultimately I go back to my PC.  I
have never played a live tournament style game and probably should practice
writing down my moves in case I ever have the chance.  I don't even own a chess
clock.  ...think I was waiting to see if I could improve my play first, or a
good sale price.

I can see how the whole tourney thing could be a little wierd at first, but it
has to be somewhat exciting also.  I think it would be just another aspect of
chess that would improve as you pursue it more.  I wouldn't even worry about
ratings right away, but look at various ways to improve your play and eliminate
your weaknesses on the board. Some players will write notes about their moves
during the game for review later.  If time allows I would.



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