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Subject: Re: chess GUI under Linux

Author: Vasik Rajlich

Date: 05:34:27 03/25/04

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On March 25, 2004 at 05:27:50, Peter Schäfer wrote:

>On March 25, 2004 at 01:35:55, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On March 23, 2004 at 13:58:12, Vasik Rajlich wrote:
>>
>>>On March 23, 2004 at 07:16:08, Joshua Shriver wrote:
>>>
>>>>I agree with the other poster. I would just stick with scid and xboard or
>>>>eboard.
>>>>
>>>>You mentioned you're running Windows under and emulator, which one? Reason I ask
>>>>limits what can be done to solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>>Here are some possible options and comments:
>>>>
>>>>Emulation is very slow and is cpu intensive so it's going to hurt the engines
>>>>strength. Emulation also means that whatever is running the OS is contained in a
>>>>sandbox, meaning that there are no conventional outside connection (file viewing
>>>>etc). Though there are some ways around that.
>>
>>
>>
>>Well you seem to be quite misinformed.
>>
>>The Windows emulators for Linux are almost as fast as a real Windows box, and
>>offer many ways to exchange files and networking capabilities.
>>
>>Win4lin runs a Windows almost AS FAST as a real box. It can use the native Linux
>>file system. It offers network sharing (if your Linux is connected to a network,
>>Win4lin is also, automatically).
>>
>>VMware runs Windows slightly slower than Win4lin, but it is still very fast (did
>>you think that the x86 instructions where interpreted or what?). It offers
>>network sharing to access the Linux filesystem or any external network. It's
>>very good. I can run simultaneously a Windows 98 and a Windows XP on my Linux
>>box! I can test my applications for several versions of Windows on a single
>>computer without rebooting!
>>
>>So to sum it up, I recommend Win4Lin and VMware. I would not recommend Wine, or
>>just for a few applications (most of the stuff I have tried with Wine did not
>>work). I do not know about Bochs, but I have heard that it does a complete
>>hardware emulation, and that is supposed to be indeed very slow. But it can
>>emulate a PC on a Mac!
>
>
>OK, but that doesn't answer the original question: can you run a native engine
>(a Linux executable) under an emulated GUI ?  (I strongly doubt it...)

Yes, this would be the ideal setup.

>
>On the other hand, chess engines use few OS functions, so the speed penalty
>shouldn't be big anyway.

What sort of a speed penalty are we talking about? I'd use this setup to play in
tournaments, either online or in-person, any penalty would be bad.

The whole idea is to compile with the Linux 64-bit compilers rather than the
Windows SDK 64-bit compiler.

Vas



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