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Subject: Re: Can anyone or engine solve this problem?

Author: Heiner Marxen

Date: 10:11:13 03/25/04

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On March 24, 2004 at 19:02:03, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On March 23, 2004 at 18:25:54, Anson T J wrote:
>
>>A game begins with 1.e4 and ends in the fifth move with knight takes rook mate.
>>Reconstruct the game.
>>
>>[d]rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKBNR b KQkq e3 0 1
>
>The problem has exactly 2 solutions (one is a simple transposition of the
>other). I already indicated the second solution (besides the one, that was
>mentioned in other followups) in another post. I also indicated, how I came to
>the conclusion (with brute force search). I was not 100% sure, whether another
>first move of black than Nf6 could yield in another transposition (I was pretty
>sure, from thinking myself about it). So, additionally to the experiments I
>mentioned in my other followup, I also did a perft(9), but disallowing Nf6 this
>time (used a hash table for it). No other solutions were found. Because I
>already did a "perft(8)" after Nf6 without hash tables (with an algorithm, that
>will find all transpositions), there cannot be another solution.
>
>>Major kudos if you solve it yourself!
>
>Not really myself. Brain time: < 1/2 hour (rather easy when you intend to use a
>fast tool for the brute force part), CPU time: ~3 hours to come to the
>conclusion, perhaps another 2 hours wasted CPU time. Coding time: 20 minutes
>(really small changes to already existing perft code).
>
>If anybody finds another solution, I will give a crate of beer (or a nice bottle
>of wine, or something similar) to the first one. It would mean a horrible bug
>(in my thinking and/or coding).

Your program agrees with (a modified version of) Chest, so the dangers are
relatively small ;-)

>Regards,
>Dieter

Cheers,
Heiner



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