Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 19:15:57 03/25/04
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On March 25, 2004 at 15:56:30, Joshua Shriver wrote:
>
>My basis for comparison was really bochs which does emulate the x86 chipset.
>Keep in mind it was designed for portability, so it emulates x86 on any system
>including x86. So it's a real emulator not a VM.
Yes. I have not tried it because I think it would be really too slow at this
time, but I think this project (which is open source) is of great value.
In a few years, it will be a very valuable utility, allowing you to use legacy
software (including DOS and Windows) on modern computers (possibly not
compatible anymore with the x86 instruction set). And on a 10GHz computer speed
will not be a real issue for those legacy applications.
So we all keep an eye on Bochs.
>I've never tried Win4lin, is it a commercial or free package?
Commercial, $80. I have bought one copy. It's really good for Win95, Win98,
Win98SE et WinME, but stops there (does not support W2000, WinXP and above).
Speed is amazing.
>As for VMWare I
>haven't had the chance or $$ to try it out either. So I'm very glad to see that
>it has interoperability between the VM's that are running. :)
>
>I'd like to try VMWare just so I can run FreeBSD/Linux at the same time :)
Yes, VMware allows you to do that.
Run WinXP and FreeBSD side by side on a Linux box. Easy.
> Or if
>you can redirect ports, would be nice to use 1 VM'd environment as a honeypot on
>the network, but that's a different topic all together.
>
>Thanks for the info though :)
>
>Joshua Shriver
Just go to the WMware website and download VMware for Linux. Then send them an
email and ask for an evaluation key.
They will send you a key FOR FREE that will activate your copy of VMware for a
period of 30 days. That's exactly what I'm doing at this time (my evaluation
period ends in 3 days).
But if you do that, please be warned that you will love the product so much that
you will probably buy the commercial version. And it's $300...
So if you cannot afford to buy it, you'd better not try it at all. Yes, it's
THAT good.
Christophe
>
>
>>Well you seem to be quite misinformed.
>>
>>The Windows emulators for Linux are almost as fast as a real Windows box, and
>>offer many ways to exchange files and networking capabilities.
>>
>>Win4lin runs a Windows almost AS FAST as a real box. It can use the native Linux
>>file system. It offers network sharing (if your Linux is connected to a network,
>>Win4lin is also, automatically).
>>
>>VMware runs Windows slightly slower than Win4lin, but it is still very fast (did
>>you think that the x86 instructions where interpreted or what?). It offers
>>network sharing to access the Linux filesystem or any external network. It's
>>very good. I can run simultaneously a Windows 98 and a Windows XP on my Linux
>>box! I can test my applications for several versions of Windows on a single
>>computer without rebooting!
>>
>>So to sum it up, I recommend Win4Lin and VMware. I would not recommend Wine, or
>>just for a few applications (most of the stuff I have tried with Wine did not
>>work). I do not know about Bochs, but I have heard that it does a complete
>>hardware emulation, and that is supposed to be indeed very slow. But it can
>>emulate a PC on a Mac!
>>
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>>
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