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Subject: Re: Dude you're Drunk! Fritz6 would slaughter these engines hands down!.

Author: Bryan Hofmann

Date: 15:10:36 03/26/04

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On March 26, 2004 at 12:30:40, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On March 26, 2004 at 07:26:54, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
>
>>On March 25, 2004 at 16:02:43, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On March 25, 2004 at 12:28:08, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 25, 2004 at 10:39:36, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I started a match of 10 games at G/90 between Gothmog 0.4.7 vs Fritz 6 and Fritz
>>>>>6 is losing  4.5 to 1.5 so far; and even if Fritz 6 win the remaining games
>>>>>which I doubt, Gothmog is having either too much luck or Fritz 6 is NOT as
>>>>>strong as I thought.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jorge
>>>>
>>>>You might want to take a look at this program;
>>>>
>>>>http://www.stevemaughan.com/whoisbetter.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dude you're Drunk! Fritz6 would slaughter these engines hands down!.
>>>
>>>I only wanted to prove to Larry that it was not as easy as he thought; all these
>>>programs Ruffian 1.0.1, Delfi 4.4, El Chinito 3.25, Thinker 4.5e, and Gothmog
>>>are almost a la par with Fritz 6 and some of these programs are even stronger.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes but I thought that if Mighty Fritz 6 is significantly stronger than any of
>>>the programs that I mentioned early the score after 8 games would have been the
>>>other way around. Instead of Gothmog winning 5.5 to 2.5 it should have been
>>>Fritz 6 winning by the same margin.
>>>
>>>
>>>Jorge
>>
>>The reason I pointed you to this program is that it shows you in 10 games you
>>are really proving nothing.
>
>
>
>It could be , but that is not the way I see it. If I am rated 2000 and I play an
>opponent which is weaker than I am by 100 points. After ten games, I should be
>able to make a statement unless I am playing him completely drunk, the weaker
>player should not be able to beat me 75% of the times out of 10 games. Now with
>programs it could happen that one program will win 5 games in a row and then the
>other will take turn if they are of equal strength or close enough within 50
>rating points. But I do believe that 10 games give us an indication of how close
>a program is to another program by looking at the percentage.
>
>PS: It doesn't proof that the program that won by 6.5 to 3.5 in the first 10
>games is stronger than the program that lost the small match, but at least it
>gives us a clue that the program that won is very close or within 50 rating
>points from the loser (Fritz 6)
>
>
>Jorge

You can belive what ever you like. The fact is you are proving your self wrong
when you take a look at the stats for your 30 min games with Fritz and Gothmog.
It is a simple fact that you can not say with any certainty one program is
stronger/better then the other with 10 matches.





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