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Subject: Re: Dude you're Drunk! Fritz6 would slaughter these engines hands down!.

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 18:48:40 03/26/04

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On March 26, 2004 at 18:10:36, Bryan Hofmann wrote:

>On March 26, 2004 at 12:30:40, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>
>>On March 26, 2004 at 07:26:54, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
>>
>>>On March 25, 2004 at 16:02:43, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 25, 2004 at 12:28:08, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 25, 2004 at 10:39:36, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I started a match of 10 games at G/90 between Gothmog 0.4.7 vs Fritz 6 and Fritz
>>>>>>6 is losing  4.5 to 1.5 so far; and even if Fritz 6 win the remaining games
>>>>>>which I doubt, Gothmog is having either too much luck or Fritz 6 is NOT as
>>>>>>strong as I thought.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jorge
>>>>>
>>>>>You might want to take a look at this program;
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.stevemaughan.com/whoisbetter.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Dude you're Drunk! Fritz6 would slaughter these engines hands down!.
>>>>
>>>>I only wanted to prove to Larry that it was not as easy as he thought; all these
>>>>programs Ruffian 1.0.1, Delfi 4.4, El Chinito 3.25, Thinker 4.5e, and Gothmog
>>>>are almost a la par with Fritz 6 and some of these programs are even stronger.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes but I thought that if Mighty Fritz 6 is significantly stronger than any of
>>>>the programs that I mentioned early the score after 8 games would have been the
>>>>other way around. Instead of Gothmog winning 5.5 to 2.5 it should have been
>>>>Fritz 6 winning by the same margin.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Jorge
>>>
>>>The reason I pointed you to this program is that it shows you in 10 games you
>>>are really proving nothing.
>>
>>
>>
>>It could be , but that is not the way I see it. If I am rated 2000 and I play an
>>opponent which is weaker than I am by 100 points. After ten games, I should be
>>able to make a statement unless I am playing him completely drunk, the weaker
>>player should not be able to beat me 75% of the times out of 10 games. Now with
>>programs it could happen that one program will win 5 games in a row and then the
>>other will take turn if they are of equal strength or close enough within 50
>>rating points. But I do believe that 10 games give us an indication of how close
>>a program is to another program by looking at the percentage.
>>
>>PS: It doesn't proof that the program that won by 6.5 to 3.5 in the first 10
>>games is stronger than the program that lost the small match, but at least it
>>gives us a clue that the program that won is very close or within 50 rating
>>points from the loser (Fritz 6)
>>
>>
>>Jorge
>
>You can belive what ever you like. The fact is you are proving your self wrong
>when you take a look at the stats for your 30 min games with Fritz and Gothmog.
>It is a simple fact that you can not say with any certainty one program is
>stronger/better then the other with 10 matches.


Why don't you take a pick between El Chinito 3.25, Aristach 4.41, Thinker 4.5e
Smarthink 0.17a, or Gothmog 0.47 and match it against Fritz 6 at longer time
control = or > than G/90 and since you need at least 100 games to be convinced.
Simply go for it!


PS: You don't need 100 rounds against Mike Tyson to convince you that he will
beat the !@#$%^$&& out of you, simply fight against him 10 little rounds and I
will be the first to pay $1000 to see him do it :-)

Jorge
Jorge



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