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Subject: Re: Endgame position

Author: Mridul Muralidharan

Date: 16:54:03 03/27/04

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On March 27, 2004 at 15:29:38, Harald Lüßen wrote:

>On March 27, 2004 at 07:04:40, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>
>>On March 27, 2004 at 06:59:51, Harald Lüßen wrote:
>>
>>>On March 26, 2004 at 18:19:02, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks Richard - I will use your (and if others post , theirs :) ) pv as
>>>>reference to furthur analyse the position.
>>>
>>>Here is another one for you from the Elephant 1.02a:
>>>
>>>2bb4/2p5/1pPp4/pP1PkP2/P5K1/6P1/2B5/8 b - - 0 1
>>>[...]
>>>  23    165  70304  178482575 Ke5xd5 Kg4-f4 Kd5-d4  g3-g4  d6-d5  f5-f6 Bd8xf6
>>>Bc2-b1
>>>B 24    175  94126  238968779 Ke5xd5 Kg4-f4 Kd5-d4  g3-g4  d6-d5 Bc2-d1 Bd8-e7
>>>g4-g5 Be7-d6 Kf4-g4 Bd6-e5 Bd1-b3 Kd4-c5 Bb3-c2 Kc5-c4 Bc2-d1  d5-d4 Bd1-e2
>>>d4-d3 Be2-f3
>>>
>>>Harald
>>
>>Hi Harald,
>>
>>  The position at the end of that pv is scary :)
>
>What do you mean with 'scary'? I have to admit that I have seen
>the position only now because you commented it. I am not a
>good player and I only see a few passed pawns threatened on
>their way to queening by a bunch of bishops. Before this there
>were bishops and kings dancing around. :-)
>

Hi Harald,


Hehe , yes you are right - but now the dance is with passed pawns so close to
the queening squares :)
I am a pretty weak human chess player - but this position would be enough for me
to have a nervous breakdown if my opponent had it - for either side !

Btw , it looks like a loss for white - though it is not a very obvious thing.
(Atleast to me , and the programs that I and my friends analysed with).
A few squares here and there - the programs still says about same eval - but the
result can be dramatically diferent : from draw to even win.

>This is what the Elephant sees in this position:
>
>2b5/2p5/1pP5/pP2bPP1/P1k3K1/3p1B2/8/8 b - - 0 11
>depth=23 +1.87 Bd8-e7 Bc2-d3 Ke5xd5 Kg4-f4 Kd5-d4 Bd3-c2  d6-d5  g3-g4 Be7-b4
>g4-g5 Bb4-d6 Kf4-g4 Kd4-c3  g5-g6 Bd6-e5 Bc2-d1 Be5-f6 Kg4-h5 Bc8xf5 Bd1-f3
>d5-d4
>Nodes: 59052637 NPS: 250000
>Time: 00:03:56.21
>
>Again I did not look. Is there a way to tell winboard: follow my line?
>Not input with 'edit game'.
>
>>Thanks for this.
>>
>>Regards
>>Mridul
>>
>>PS : Your score is remarkably constant at 1.77 !
>
>May be I have not enough evaluation terms to distinguish between
>the positions. :-)
>
>Harald

Well , mine err at around 0.3 , yours err's at around  1.7 : I would prefer
yours anyday ! :)

Mridul



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