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Subject: Re: Gothmog is stronger at longer time control against Fritz 6 !

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 03:36:51 03/29/04

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On March 29, 2004 at 04:00:58, Uri Blass wrote:

>On March 29, 2004 at 03:38:54, Tord Romstad wrote:
>
>>On March 28, 2004 at 16:04:14, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>The Blitz G/30 was over yesterday, and after 30 games Fritz 6 won by 20 to 10.
>>>
>>>I decided to continue the Match at G/90 and after 30 games Gothmog won by 15.5
>>>to 14.5.
>>
>>Hi Jorge,
>>
>>I am very grateful for the amount of work and CPU time you spend on testing my
>>engine, and I am very interested in your games and results.  But the limited
>>number of games played does not allow you to make conclusions like the one in
>>the subject line.  The only thing you can conclude from your results is that
>>in short matches, neither of the two engines are entirely without a chance
>>of winning.
>>
>>>I still think that Gothmog at longer time control play a la par with
>>>Fritz 6, since 1 game doesn't really make too much of a difference.
>>
>>I assure you, they are not even close.  There is plenty of statistics to be
>>found on the net to prove that there is a huge gap in playing strength.  As
>>an example, consider, Heinz van Kempen's rating list:
>>
>>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ratings/ratingsnunn2.htm
>>
>>As you can see, Gothmog is rated 201 points behind Ruffian 1.0.5, which
>>according to the SSDF list is about as strong as Fritz 6.  Of course
>>Heinz' list is based on blitz games, and it is possible that Gothmog is
>>somewhat stronger at slow time controls (I expected the opposite, though).
>>But the idea that the difference in strength between short and fast
>>time controls could be as big as 200 points is absurd.
>>
>>Tord
>
>It is also possible that rating in the nunn position is different than rating in
>games and gothmog is relatively worse in the nunn positions.
>
>Uri

It could also be that Gothmog 0.47 is benefiting from using the Shredder8.ctg,
since I have been using it instead od Gothmog limited opening book.

Jorge.



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