Author: martin fierz
Date: 10:32:10 03/29/04
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On March 29, 2004 at 06:37:26, martin fierz wrote: >On March 29, 2004 at 03:38:54, Tord Romstad wrote: > >>On March 28, 2004 at 16:04:14, Jorge Pichard wrote: >> >>>The Blitz G/30 was over yesterday, and after 30 games Fritz 6 won by 20 to 10. >>> >>>I decided to continue the Match at G/90 and after 30 games Gothmog won by 15.5 >>>to 14.5. >> >>Hi Jorge, >> >>I am very grateful for the amount of work and CPU time you spend on testing my >>engine, and I am very interested in your games and results. But the limited >>number of games played does not allow you to make conclusions like the one in >>the subject line. The only thing you can conclude from your results is that >>in short matches, neither of the two engines are entirely without a chance >>of winning. >> >>>I still think that Gothmog at longer time control play a la par with >>>Fritz 6, since 1 game doesn't really make too much of a difference. >> >>I assure you, they are not even close. There is plenty of statistics to be >>found on the net to prove that there is a huge gap in playing strength. As >>an example, consider, Heinz van Kempen's rating list: >> >>http://www.husvankempen.de/nunn/ratings/ratingsnunn2.htm >> >>As you can see, Gothmog is rated 201 points behind Ruffian 1.0.5, which >>according to the SSDF list is about as strong as Fritz 6. Of course >>Heinz' list is based on blitz games, and it is possible that Gothmog is >>somewhat stronger at slow time controls (I expected the opposite, though). >>But the idea that the difference in strength between short and fast >>time controls could be as big as 200 points is absurd. >> >>Tord > >hi tord, > >i just finished a big nunn2 blitz 1' + 5''/move with 5 arena partner engines >(ruffian 105, anmon 530, SOS4Arena, Dragon45, Nejmet 3.07) + gothmog 0.4.7 + >muse 0894 - i'm a bit reluctant to post the result, but i can just leave out the >last place ;-) >gothmog finished 6th, but honourably 6th with a rather small gap to place 3. >ruffian won convincingly, anmon came clear second and my thing clear last of >course. i'll post the full results tonight when i get back home together with an >elostat of the tournament. my feeling is that the difference between gothmog and >ruffian should be smaller than 200 points based on my tournament, but i'll have >to run elostat to be sure. > >cheers > martin >anyway, here goes: elostat output for 50-round nunn2-tournament on XP2400+ with ~32MB hash per engine, time control 1'+5'': i tried to adjust starting elo so that the ratings of ruffian, dragon and nejmet were about as in WBEC. Ruffian 1.05 2703 Anmon 5.30 2601 SOS 4 Arena 2557 Dragon 4.5 2542 Nejmet 3.07 2527 Gothmog 0.4.7 2519 Muse 0.894 2402 so tord's suggestion that ruffian is ~200 elo stronger at blitz than gothmog is confirmed here. cheers martin
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