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Subject: Re: Endgame query (with diagrams)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:55:27 03/30/04

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On March 30, 2004 at 09:11:51, Kurt Utzinger wrote:

>On March 30, 2004 at 08:12:43, GuyHaworth wrote:
>
>>
>>A request for help from those of you who have downloaded 6-man P-less endgame
>>Nalimov EGTs:
>>
>>I would be interested in knowing the theoretical value, Depth to Mate and ‘best’
>>immediate move re the following:

Here are your results.  Moves with a ! are "only optimal move".



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>[D]R7/8/8/k7/3q4/8/8/bK4Q1 b

1. ... Kb6! 2. Qg6+! Qf6! 3. Rg8! Ka5! 4. Qg5+! Be5! 5. Qd2+! Kb6!
6. Qe3+! Kc6! 7. Qe4+! Kc5! 8. Qc2+! Kb4! 9. Qd2+! Kc5! 10. Qa5+!
Kc6! 11. Qa6+! Kd5! 12. Qb5+! Ke4! 13. Qc4+! Ke3! 14. Qc5+! Bd4!
15. Re8+! Kf2 16. Qc2+! Kg3! 17. Rg8+! Kf4! 18. Qh2+! Ke4! 19. Qg2+!
Kd3! 20. Qc2+! Ke3 21. Re8+! Be5! 22. Qc5+ Ke4! 23. Qb4+! Kd3 24.
Qb5+! Kd4 25. Qb2+! Kd5! 26. Qa2+! Kd6! 27. Qa6+! Kd5! 28. Qa8+!
Kd4! 29. Rd8+! Ke3! 30. Qa3+! Ke2! 31. Qd3+! Kf2! 32. Qd2+! Kf1 33.
Qd1+ Kf2! 34. Rd2+! Kg3! 35. Qg1+ Kh3 36. Qg2+ Kh4 37. Qe4+! Kh3!
38. Qh7+! Kg3! 39. Qh2+! Kg4! 40. Rg2+! Kf3! 41. Qh3+! Ke4! 42. Re2+!
Kd4! 43. Qe3+! Kd5! 44. Qd3+! Bd4! 45. Rb2! Qc6! 46. Qf5+! Kd6! 47.
Qg6+! Kc7! 48. Qg3+! Kd8! 49. Qg5+! Qf6! 50. Qg8+! Kd7! 51. Rb7+!
Kc6! 52. Qc8+! Kd5! 53. Rb5+! Ke4! 54. Qc2+! Kf4! 55. Qh2+! Ke4!
56. Qg2+! Kd3! 57. Qc2+! Ke3 58. Rb3+! Kf4! 59. Qh2+! Ke4! 60. Qg2+!
Ke5! 61. Rb5+! Kf4! 62. Kc2! Qe6! 63. Kd1! Bc3! 64. Qf2+! Kg4! 65.
Qc5! Qe1+ 66. Kc2 Qd2+! 67. Kb3! Qb2+! 68. Kc4! Qe2+! 69. Kxc3! Qe1+!
70. Kd4 Qg1+! 71. Ke5 Qh2+! 72. Ke6! Qh6+! 73. Kd7! Qh7+! 74. Kc6!
Qe4+ 75. Qd5! Qe8+! 76. Qd7+! Qxd7+! 77. Kxd7! Kf4! 78. Rd5 Ke3!
79. Kd6! Ke2 80. Re5+ Kd2 81. Kc5! Kd3! 82. Re8 Kc2 83. Rd8 Kb3 84.
Rd3+! Ka2 85. Rc3 Ka1 86. Rb3 Ka2 87. Kc4 Ka1 88. Kd3 Ka2 89. Kc2!
Ka1 90. Ra3#





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>[D]8/k3nq2/8/6R1/8/4Q3/8/3K4 b

1. ... Ka6! 2. Qe2+! Kb6 3. Rb5+! Kc6! 4. Rb2! Qd5+! 5. Rd2! Qh1+!
6. Kc2! Qh7+! 7. Kb2! Qh8+! 8. Kb1! Qh7+! 9. Rd3! Qh1+! 10. Ka2!
Nd5! 11. Ra3! Kd6! 12. Ra6+! Kc5! 13. Qc2+! Kd4! 14. Ra4+ Ke5! 15.
Qb2+! Kd6! 16. Qb8+! Kc5! 17. Qc8+! Kd6! 18. Ra6+! Ke5! 19. Qe6+!
Kd4! 20. Ra4+! Kc5! 21. Ra5+! Kd4! 22. Qg4+! Kd3! 23. Qg3+! Kc4!
24. Qb3+! Kd4 25. Ra4+! Kc5! 26. Qc2+! Kb6! 27. Qd3! Kb7! 28. Qa6+!
Kc7! 29. Qa7+! Kd6! 30. Ra6+! Ke5! 31. Qg7+! Kf5! 32. Qg6+! Ke5!
33. Qg3+! Kd4! 34. Kb2! Qh7! 35. Qf2+ Ke5! 36. Qe1+! Kd4! 37. Ra4+!
Kc5! 38. Qa5+! Kd6! 39. Qd8+! Ke5! 40. Qe8+! Kd6! 41. Ra6+! Kc5!
42. Ra5+! Kd4! 43. Qa4+! Ke5! 44. Qb3! Qh2+! 45. Ka3! Qh1! 46. Qb8+!
Ke4 47. Ra4+! Kf5! 48. Qc8+! Ke5! 49. Qe8+! Kf5! 50. Qf7+ Ke5 51.
Qg7+! Kf5! 52. Qg4+! Ke5! 53. Kb2! Kd6! 54. Qg6+ Kc5! 55. Qc2+! Kd6!
56. Ra6+! Ke5! 57. Qe2+! Kf4! 58. Ra4+! Kf5! 59. Qg4+! Ke5! 60. Ra6!
Qh2+! 61. Ka3! Nf4! 62. Ra5+! Kd6! 63. Qd1+! Ke7! 64. Ra7+! Ke6!
65. Qd7+ Kf6! 66. Qg7+ Kf5! 67. Rf7+! Ke4! 68. Re7+! Kd3 69. Qe5!
Qg3! 70. Ka4! Kc2! 71. Rc7+! Kd1! 72. Qa1+! Kd2 73. Qb2+ Ke3! 74.
Rc3+! Nd3! 75. Rxd3+! Kxd3! 76. Qb3+ Kd4 77. Qxg3! Ke4 78. Qg5! Kd3
79. Qe5 Kd2 80. Qe4 Kd1 81. Qg2 Kc1 82. Qf2 Kb1 83. Kb3! Ka1 84. Qb2#




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>[D]4q3/7R/7Q/4r3/8/4k3/8/2K5 b


1. ... Ke4! 2. Qh4+! Kd5! 3. Qh1+! Kc5! 4. Qg1+! Kc4 5. Qf1+! Kb4!
6. Rb7+! Ka5! 7. Ra7+! Kb4! 8. Qf4+! Kb3! 9. Rb7+! Rb5! 10. Qg3+!
Ka4! 11. Ra7+! Kb4! 12. Qf4+! Kc5! 13. Rc7+! Kd5! 14. Qd2+! Ke6!
15. Rc2! Re5! 16. Qh6+! Kd7! 17. Qc6+! Ke7! 18. Qb6! Re6! 19. Rc7+!
Kf6! 20. Qf2+! Kg5 21. Qg3+ Kf5! 22. Qf3+! Kg5! 23. Rc4! Kh6! 24.
Rh4+! Kg7! 25. Qc3+! Kf7! 26. Rh7+! Kg6! 27. Qd3+! Kg5! 28. Kd2!
Re7! 29. Qg3+! Kf5! 30. Qh3+! Kf6! 31. Qh4+! Ke6! 32. Qg4+ Kd6! 33.
Qd4+! Kc7! 34. Qc3+! Kd7! 35. Rh6! Re2+! 36. Kd1! Re6! 37. Qd4+!
Kc7! 38. Qf4+! Kc6! 39. Qe4+ Kd6! 40. Qb4+! Kd7! 41. Qa4+! Kd8! 42.
Qa8+! Kc7! 43. Rh7+! Kd6! 44. Qa3+! Ke5! 45. Qc5+! Kf6! 46. Qd4+!
Kg6! 47. Rh1! Re5! 48. Qd3+ Kf7! 49. Qf3+! Kg6! 50. Qg3+! Kf5! 51.
Qd3+! Kf6! 52. Rh4! Kf7! 53. Qf3+! Ke7! 54. Rh7+! Kd6! 55. Qa3+!
Kd5! 56. Qd3+! Kc6! 57. Qc4+! Kd6! 58. Qb4+! Kc6! 59. Rh6+! Re6!
60. Kc1! Kc7! 61. Rh7+! Kc6! 62. Qb7+! Kc5! 63. Qa7+! Kd5! 64. Qa5+!
Kd6! 65. Qc7+! Kd5 66. Rh5+! Re5! 67. Qa5+! Ke4! 68. Qb4+ Kd5! 69.
Qd2+! Kc5 70. Qc3+! Kd5! 71. Rh1! Qe7! 72. Rd1+! Ke6! 73. Qh3+! Kf7!
74. Qh7+! Kf6! 75. Qh6+! Kf5! 76. Rf1+! Ke4! 77. Qc6+! Kd4! 78. Rf4+!
Re4! 79. Qb6+! Ke5! 80. Qb8+! Kd5! 81. Qb5+! Kd4! 82. Qb2+! Kc4!
83. Qe2+ Kd4! 84. Qd2+! Kc4! 85. Qe3! Rxf4! 86. Qxe7! Kd3! 87. Qh7+
Re4 88. Qg6 Ke3 89. Qg3+ Kd4! 90. Kd2! Re6 91. Qf4+ Kd5! 92. Kd3!
Re5 93. Qf6 Re6! 94. Qd4+! Kc6 95. Kc4! Rd6! 96. Qg4 Kc7! 97. Qg7+
Kd8! 98. Qf7 Rd1 99. Qf4! Ke8! 100. Qe3+! Kd8! 101. Qg5+! Kc7 102.
Kc5! Rd7! 103. Qe5+! Kb7 104. Kb5! Rc7! 105. Qe8! Rc1! 106. Qe4+!
Kc8! 107. Kb6! Kd7 108. Qd4+ Ke6 109. Qe3+! Kd5 110. Qxc1! Ke5! 111.
Qh6 Kd4 112. Qe6 Kc3 113. Qd6 Kb2 114. Qd2+ Ka1 115. Kc5 Kb1 116.
Kd4 Ka1 117. Kc3! Kb1 118. Qb2#



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>[D]Bb6/8/8/8/8/1R6/3kn3/K7 b

1. ... Be5+! 2. Kb1! Nc3+! 3. Kb2! Nb5+! 4. Ka2! Nc3+! 5. Ka3! Bd6+!
6. Kb2! Be5! 7. Bg2! Nb5+! 8. Ka2! Nc3+! 9. Ka3! Bd6+! 10. Kb2! Nd1+
11. Ka2 Nc3+! 12. Ka1! Be5! 13. Bh3! Ne2+! 14. Kb1! Nc3+! 15. Kb2!
Nb5+! 16. Ka2! Nc3+! 17. Ka3! Bd6+! 18. Kb2! Nd1+ 19. Ka2 Nc3+! 20.
Ka1! Ne4 21. Rb7 Nc5 22. Rh7 Kc3! 23. Ka2 Nb3 24. Bg2! Nc1+ 25. Kb1!
Ne2 26. Rh8! Nd4 27. Rc8+! Kd3! 28. Kb2! Bb4! 29. Re8! Kc4! 30. Kc1!
Ba5! 31. Re5! Kc3! 32. Bf1! Nb3+! 33. Kd1! Kd4! 34. Rb5! Nd2! 35.
Bg2! Nc4! 36. Rd5+ Kc3! 37. Ke2! Bb6! 38. Bh3 Ba7! 39. Bc8 Nb6 40.
Rd3+! Kb4! 41. Be6! Nc4! 42. Rd7! Bc5! 43. Rd8 Ne5! 44. Rd5! Nc6!
45. Kd3! Ne7! 46. Rh5 Kb5! 47. Bf7 Nc8 48. Be8+! Kb6! 49. Rh1! Ne7!
50. Ke4! Bd6! 51. Rd1! Kc5! 52. Rd3! Bh2! 53. Rb3! Bc7! 54. Rc3+!
Kd6! 55. Rd3+! Ke6! 56. Bd7+! Kf6! 57. Rf3+ Kg5 58. Rf7! Bd6! 59.
Be8! Ba3! 60. Ke5! Ng6+! 61. Kd5! Bb2! 62. Rf1! Nf4+ 63. Ke4! Ne6!
64. Rf5+ Kg4! 65. Bh5+! Kh4! 66. Be2 Ng5+! 67. Kd3! Ne6! 68. Ke3!
Bc1+ 69. Kf2! Nf4 70. Bd1! Nd3+! 71. Kg2 Nf4+! 72. Kf3! Nh5! 73.
Bb3! Bb2! 74. Ra5! Nf6! 75. Kf4! Nh5+ 76. Ke4! Bc3! 77. Rc5! Bb4!
78. Rc4! Be7! 79. Kf5+! Kh3! 80. Rc6! Ng3+! 81. Kf4! Nh5+! 82. Ke5!
Ng3! 83. Be6+! Kg2! 84. Rc2+! Kf1! 85. Bc4+ Ke1! 86. Rg2! Bd8! 87.
Kf4! Bc7+! 88. Kf3! Bd6 89. Bb3! Be5 90. Bf7 Bc7 91. Bg6! Bd6 92.
Rh2 Kd1! 93. Rb2! Kc1! 94. Rb5! Nf1! 95. Rb1+! Kd2 96. Rxf1! Bb4
97. Rf2+ Kc3! 98. Ke4! Ba3 99. Rf3+ Kb4! 100. Bf7 Bc1! 101. Rb3+!
Ka4! 102. Be6 Bd2 103. Kd4 Bc1 104. Kc4! Bd2 105. Rb6 Ka3 106. Bd7!
Bc1 107. Rb3+ Ka2 108. Kc3! Bd2+ 109. Kc2! Bc1! 110. Be6 Bb2! 111.
Bg8 Bc1 112. Kxc1! Ka1 113. Ra3#



>[D]NbR5/8/n7/8/8/8/8/2K2k2 w

1. Kd1! Be5! 2. Re8! Bg7! 3. Re7! Bh8! 4. Re2! Bc3! 5. Nb6! Nb4!
6. Rh2! Be5! 7. Rh4! Nd3! 8. Nd5! Kf2! 9. Re4! Bb8! 10. Re2+! Kg1!
11. Rc2! Nf4! 12. Nf6! Kf1! 13. Ng4! Ba7! 14. Rc7! Bb8! 15. Rc8!
Bd6! 16. Rc2! Kg1! 17. Nh6! Be7! 18. Rc4! Bd6! 19. Nf5! Bb8! 20.
Rc8! Be5! 21. Rc2! Ba1 22. Nd6! Bd4 23. Ne4! Kf1! 24. Rh2 Be3 25.
Rb2! Bd4! 26. Rc2! Ba7! 27. Rc3! Bb8! 28. Kd2! Ne6! 29. Rc8! Bf4+!
30. Kd1! Bc7! 31. Re8! Nf4! 32. Kd2! Nh3! 33. Ke3! Bb6+! 34. Kf3!
Ng1+! 35. Kg3! Bc7+! 36. Kg4! Ke2! 37. Ra8! Ke3! 38. Ng5! Be5! 39.
Re8! Kd4! 40. Nf7 Bh2! 41. Nd8! Kd3! 42. Ne6! Be5! 43. Nc5+! Kd4!
44. Nd7! Bh2! 45. Re6! Kd3! 46. Rh6! Bc7! 47. Nc5+! Kc3 48. Rc6!
Bh2! 49. Rc8! Kd4! 50. Nb3+! Kd3! 51. Rd8+! Kc3! 52. Nd4! Be5! 53.
Nf5! Bf6! 54. Rf8! Be5! 55. Re8! Bh2! 56. Rc8+ Kd2 57. Rd8+! Kc3!
58. Rd1! Kc2! 59. Ne3+! Kc3! 60. Nd5+! Kc2! 61. Rf1! Kd3! 62. Nb4+!
Kc4 63. Na2! Kb3 64. Nc1+! Kc3! 65. Rf8! Be5! 66. Kf5! Bd6! 67. Rg8!
Nf3! 68. Ke4! Nd2+! 69. Kd5! Be7 70. Rc8+! Kb2! 71. Rc6! Bh4! 72.
Nd3+ Kb3! 73. Ke5 Nf3+ 74. Ke4! Nd2+! 75. Kd5! Bg5! 76. Nf2! Bd8!
77. Nd1! Ba5! 78. Rc8! Nf3! 79. Ne3! Bd2! 80. Nf5! Ba5! 81. Rc5 Bb4
82. Rc7! Ba5! 83. Rc8! Bd2! 84. Ke4! Ne1! 85. Nd4+! Kb2! 86. Rh8
Bc3! 87. Rb8+! Kc1! 88. Nb5! Bd2! 89. Rh8! Bb4! 90. Rh2! Kd1! 91.
Rb2! Ba5 92. Nd6 Bd2 93. Nc4! Bf4 94. Rf2! Bc1! 95. Kd4! Bh6! 96.
Nb2+! Kc1 97. Ke4! Bd2 98. Nc4! Bg5! 99. Rf5! Bh6! 100. Rh5 Bd2!
101. Rh1! Bb4! 102. Rh7! Bd2! 103. Ra7! Bb4! 104. Rd7! Bc3! 105.
Rd5! Bb4! 106. Ke3! Nc2+! 107. Kd3! Na3! 108. Ne5! Kb2! 109. Nf3!
Kb3! 110. Nd4+! Ka4! 111. Rd8! Be1! 112. Ne6 Bg3! 113. Ra8+! Kb3
114. Rg8! Bf2! 115. Rb8+! Ka4! 116. Kc3! Be1+! 117. Kd4! Bb4! 118.
Rb7 Nc2+! 119. Kd3! Na3! 120. Rc7! Bd6! 121. Rd7! Bb4! 122. Rd8!
Be7! 123. Ra8+! Kb4! 124. Ra7! Bd6! 125. Rd7! Bh2! 126. Rb7+! Ka4!
127. Ke4 Bg1! 128. Kd5! Nc2! 129. Nd8 Ne3+! 130. Kd4! Nc2+! 131.
Kc3! Na3! 132. Rb4+! Ka5 133. Kb3! Nb5! 134. Rg4! Bh2! 135. Kc4!
Bc7! 136. Nc6+! Kb6! 137. Rg6! Nd6+! 138. Kd5! Kb7! 139. Rg3! Nc4
140. Rb3+! Nb6+! 141. Kc5! Kc8! 142. Nd4! Nd7+! 143. Kd5! Nb6+ 144.
Kc6! Nd7! 145. Ne6 Nb8+! 146. Kc5! Na6+! 147. Kd5! Bh2 148. Rh3!
Bc7! 149. Rh7! Bg3! 150. Ra7! Nb4+! 151. Kc4! Nc6! 152. Rh7! Nd8!
153. Nd4! Bf4! 154. Kd5! Bg3! 155. Nf5 Bc7! 156. Ne7+ Kb7! 157. Rg7!
Kb6! 158. Nc8+! Kb7! 159. Nd6+! Kb6! 160. Ne4! Bf4! 161. Rg4! Bh2!
162. Rg8 Bc7! 163. Nc5! Kb5! 164. Rg7! Kb6! 165. Re7 Bg3 166. Na4+!
Ka6! 167. Nb2! Bh4! 168. Rh7! Bg3! 169. Nc4! Bb8! 170. Rg7 Bf4! 171.
Rd7! Bg5! 172. Nd6! Bh4! 173. Rg7! Kb6! 174. Nc4+! Kb5! 175. Rg6!
Be1 176. Na3+ Ka4! 177. Ra6+! Kb3 178. Nb5! Bh4! 179. Nd6 Bg5 180.
Ne4! Be7! 181. Rh6 Bb4! 182. Rb6! Nf7! 183. Rb5! Nh6 184. Kd4! Nf7!
185. Nc5+! Ka3! 186. Kd5! Bxc5! 187. Rxc5! Ka4 188. Rc8 Ng5! 189.
Rf8 Kb5! 190. Rf6 Nh3 191. Rf5 Ng1 192. Kd4+! Kb4 193. Ke3! Nh3 194.
Rh5! Ng1! 195. Rh1 Ne2! 196. Kxe2! Kc5! 197. Rh5+ Kb6 198. Re5 Kc6
199. Kd3! Kd6 200. Kd4! Kc6! 201. Rd5! Kb6! 202. Rc5! Ka6 203. Kc4!
Kb6! 204. Kb4! Ka6 205. Rb5! Ka7 206. Ka5! Ka8 207. Kb6! Kb8 208.
Rc5! Ka8 209. Rc8#




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>[D]1k4q1/8/3K4/8/1N6/8/8/R3B3 w


1. Na6+! Kc8! 2. Rc1+! Kb7! 3. Nc5+! Kb6! 4. Rb1+! Ka7! 5. Ra1+!
Kb8! 6. Nd7+! Kb7! 7. Rb1+! Ka7! 8. Bf2+! Ka6! 9. Nc5+! Ka7! 10.
Rb4! Qg6+ 11. Kc7! Qh7+! 12. Kc6! Qg6+! 13. Kb5! Qe8+! 14. Ka5! Qf8!
15. Bd4! Qd8+! 16. Kb5! Qe8+! 17. Kc4! Qg8+! 18. Kc3! Qg3+! 19. Kb2!
Qg2+ 20. Ka3! Qf3+ 21. Rb3! Qf4! 22. Ne6+! Ka8! 23. Rb6! Qc1+! 24.
Kb4! Qb1+! 25. Kc5! Qc2+ 26. Kd6! Qg6! 27. Ke5! Qh5+! 28. Kf4! Qh4+
29. Kf3! Qh1+ 30. Ke2! Qg2+! 31. Ke3! Qc2! 32. Nc5! Qf5! 33. Rf6!
Qh5! 34. Ke4! Qh1+! 35. Ke5! Ka7! 36. Bc3! Qd1! 37. Ke4! Qc2+! 38.
Kd4! Kb8! 39. Re6! Qd1+ 40. Kc4! Qf1+! 41. Kb4! Kc7! 42. Be5+! Kd8!
43. Bg3! Qg1! 44. Bh4+! Kc8! 45. Bf6! Kc7! 46. Be5+! Kd8! 47. Bc3!
Qb1+! 48. Ka5! Qc1! 49. Bf6+! Kc7! 50. Be5+! Kd8! 51. Bd6! Qb2! 52.
Re5 Qa1+ 53. Kb6 Qb1+! 54. Kc6! Qg6! 55. Re7 Qg2+! 56. Re4! Qg6!
57. Kb5! Kc8! 58. Bh2! Qf7! 59. Bf4! Qg6! 60. Re1! Qf7! 61. Bd2!
Kc7! 62. Bc3! Qf5! 63. Rd1! Kc8! 64. Ba5! Qf6 65. Re1! Qf7! 66. Re6!
Kb8! 67. Bc3! Qf1+! 68. Kc6! Qh1+! 69. Ne4! Qc1! 70. Re8+! Ka7 71.
Re7+! Ka8 72. Re5! Qc2! 73. Kc7! Qh2! 74. Nd6! Qh7+! 75. Kc6! Qh1+!
76. Kb6! Qb1+! 77. Rb5! Qh7! 78. Rc5! Qa7+! 79. Kb5! Qd7+! 80. Rc6!
Ka7! 81. Bd4+! Ka8! 82. Bf6! Kb8! 83. Be5! Ka8! 84. Kc5! Qa7+! 85.
Kb4! Qg1! 86. Ka5! Qe1+! 87. Kb6! Qg1+ 88. Rc5! Qf2 89. Nb5! Qe3!
90. Bd4! Qe6+ 91. Rc6! Qh3! 92. Bc5! Qf5 93. Be7 Qd7! 94. Nc7+! Kb8!
95. Bd6! Qd8! 96. Be5! Kc8! 97. Rc4! Qd3! 98. Nb5+! Qxc4! 99. Nd6+!
Kd7 100. Nxc4! Ke6 101. Kc6 Kf5! 102. Kd5! Kg4! 103. Ke4! Kg5! 104.
Nd6! Kg4! 105. Nf7 Kh3! 106. Kf3! Kh4 107. Bc7 Kh3! 108. Ng5+! Kh4
109. Kf4! Kh5 110. Kf5! Kh4! 111. Bb8 Kh5 112. Bg3! Kh6 113. Ne6!
Kh5! 114. Ng7+ Kh6 115. Kf6! Kh7 116. Nf5 Kg8 117. Bd6! Kh7! 118.
Kf7! Kh8 119. Kg6! Kg8 120. Nh6+! Kh8 121. Be5#



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>>Thanks in advance - g



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