Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: King's Out : move ordering questions

Author: Bernd Nürnberger

Date: 04:18:57 04/01/04

Go up one level in this thread


On April 01, 2004 at 05:09:34, Vasik Rajlich wrote:

>On March 31, 2004 at 07:43:59, Bernd Nürnberger wrote:
>
>>Hello,
>>
>>[introduction]
>>(1)
>>[PV varies widly with different mvoe orderings]
>>(2)
>>[60-80% FH with MVV/LVA, PVS, history heuristics, hash table]
>>(3)
>>[SEE description wanted!]
>>

>Your move ordering is quite ok.
Well, 80% or quite o.k., 60% are somewhat low I think. Compared to the simple
minmax (resp. the perft values), alpha beta with some enhancements is an
although very amazing in my opinion!!

>There should be no big difference between mmv/lva for move ordering. (Untested
>hypothesis actually.) Killers should help.
Do you mean, moving from MVV/LVA to SEE will not reduce my tree size
drastically?  Killers did not help very much two months ago, maybe because
they are very similiar to the history heuristics?!

>The main thing which will drive up your first cut rate is internal iterative
>deepening. (If you have it implemented and are getting 60-80%, then you have a
>bug.)
Maybe this is really a good idea!  I did not try it so far, and I will
surely try it the next days. Thanks for this advice!

Greetings,
              Bernd




This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.