Author: blass uri
Date: 15:51:59 12/12/98
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On December 12, 1998 at 16:38:29, Bert Seifriz wrote: >On December 12, 1998 at 07:44:20, Micheal Cummings wrote: > >> >>On December 12, 1998 at 06:37:28, Bert Seifriz wrote: >> >>>On December 12, 1998 at 04:46:42, Micheal Cummings wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>On December 12, 1998 at 04:31:05, Bert Seifriz wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 11, 1998 at 07:45:36, Micheal Cummings wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>On December 11, 1998 at 07:40:28, Harald Faber wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On December 11, 1998 at 07:31:55, Micheal Cummings wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>You maybe right but it was not the point of this post, I suppose I should have >>>>>>just wrote instead of trying to make points in my opinion that; >>>>>> >>>>>>The reason why some people hate CM6K is that they do not want to hear that a >>>>>>Cheap program maybe stronger than their expensive one. >>>>>SNIP >>>>> >>>>>Nobody hates CM, this is complete nonsense! But there is one thing >>>>>I do not like about it: there are new versions but the engine remains >>>> >>>>I do not understand how you can say that CM6K is pretty much the same as 5000, >>>>5500 and even 4000 for that matter in playing engine. Where do you see this ? >>> >>>Well, 4000 may be a bit far fetched, but >>>the engine is called King (because Koning is Dutch for king). >>>So all you have to do is look at the engine version in >>>the different CMs. >>>Bert >> >>Yes but I do not understand what that has got to do with anything, in each >>version the King engine is also a new version. So what is your point. >>The Engine is not the same in 5000, 5500, and CM6000 is still a newer version >>engine than the others. > >Very easy: >You are a programmer and you work 1 year and you have changed many >details and so you change your chess program Slaughterchess version 1 in >version 2. Okay. >Or you say my changes are so tremendous I call that version >Slaughterchess Diamond 50 Carat now! Okay, no objections if you made a >jewel out of your program. >Or you make some little changes and you can still say this is my new >program. The old version was version 1, but now we have the year >2000 at hand so the new version is called Slaughterchess Millennium >2000 (there are no parallels with real life intended here!) >I would have some objections here! > >And well there are also some honest and humble people in this world. >They make a little change, their previous >version was 1 and now they call it 1.1, or when the change was smaller >they call it 1.01! This sounds reasonable and honest to me! >Johan de Koning is honest! And now read his version numbers. >Not 5000 or 6000, this is Mindscape algebra! Read his engine >version numbers, that's what we are talking about! And in these >numbers you can read which improvements he thought he made! >Nice weekend, Bert The only way to know if the change is small or big is by games and not by the number of the engine. Junior5 is clearly better than Junior4.6(more than 100 elo difference in the selective search) when Genius5 is not clearly better than Genius4 or Genius3 Uri
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