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Subject: Re: Very Easy Why Some People Hate Chessmaster

Author: Micheal Cummings

Date: 16:17:16 12/12/98

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On December 12, 1998 at 19:09:51, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On December 12, 1998 at 18:47:42, Micheal Cummings wrote:
>>
>>On December 12, 1998 at 16:38:29, Bert Seifriz wrote:
>>
>>>Very easy:
>>>You are a programmer and you work 1 year and you have changed many
>>>details  and so you change your chess program Slaughterchess version 1 in
>>>version 2. Okay.
>>>Or you say my changes are so tremendous I call that version
>>>Slaughterchess Diamond 50 Carat now! Okay, no objections if you made a
>>>jewel out of your program.
>>>Or you make some little changes and you can still say this is my new
>>>program. The old version was version 1, but now we have the year
>>>2000 at hand so the new version is called Slaughterchess Millennium
>>>2000 (there are no parallels with real life intended here!)
>>>I would have some objections here!
>>>
>>>And well there are also some honest and humble people in this world.
>>>They make a little change, their previous
>>>version was 1 and now they call it 1.1, or when the change was smaller
>>>they call it 1.01! This sounds reasonable and honest to me!
>>>Johan de Koning is honest! And now read his version numbers.
>>>Not 5000 or 6000, this is Mindscape algebra! Read his engine
>>>version numbers, that's what we are talking about! And in these
>>>numbers you can read which improvements he thought he made!
>>>Nice weekend, Bert
>>
>>I do not take your version method thinking as being able to tell how good a
>>program has jumped. I have many programs, not chess which do the same thing and
>>there are some many big improvements.
>>
>>I think there is a big strength difference between CM6000 and Cm5x00, Have you
>>ever thought Johan only does this in order to not make a big statement on
>>strength. He might be covering his bases, that if it is around the same as the
>>previous version, we can all use your theory, but if it is a big jump, which I
>>believe it is, I do not believe you theory holds water.
>>
>>Regards
>>
>>Micheal
>
>Okay, Chessmaster 3000 and before sucked for playing strength, let's forget
>those entirely.  4000 was the first to use a de Koning engine, if I recall
>correctly.  All of a sudden there was a cheap program that was also strong!
>5000 was a new version of The King (2.5 or so?).  5500 did have the same engine
>as 5000, but I think that 6000 again has a newer version (2.7?).  I cannot check
>these versions because I do not own these products myself, I have friends who
>own them.  Anyway, in the most recent Dutch Championship, The King won again,
>and I believe his engine version number was 3.0.  So, it seems as though he
>continues to improve his software, and every once in a while Mindscape licences
>his latest and greatest from him.
>
>Dave Gomboc

Yes Cm6000 does use a updated engine that Cm5500, the one just below the new
King 3.0 engine which just won the Dutch Championship



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